Thanks for your reply.

I am taking chromium and a muti, some c but I only just read about mai wei di huang wan... Do you have a site where I can get it? I have used gymnema but run out. I will order more tomorrow.

Believe me I understand about no weight loss, I went 5 years!
I stuck to Atkins like glue! I did NOT want to get on meds.
people around me kept telling me I had to cut calories so I changed some things like eating chicken which has very little fat, cut the cream to 1/2 and 1/2 thinking I was doing the right thing.
I cut out so much fat that I was eating almost nothing but protein and a small amount of carbs. It just didn't work and the sugar levels started moving up. Having to take care of my Mom who died of cancer last Sept didn't help either.

Now I feel I am back on track. I want to try this chinese herb as well.