This has been so inpirational and thought provoking. Thanks everyone for sharing. Donald it is so true that people kind of give up on themselves when they are in a secure,happy relationship. I read once that humans need adversity in order to strive for something better. That if things are too easy or good we just kind of stop being inovative, as individuals and as societies. Actualy, it was a science fiction paper that hypothesized that if we somehow managed to become immortals (no more diseases) we would stop having children, stop exploring, stop striving and inventing. We would become complacent . Anyway, I'm getting way out there! I am in such a zen type of mood today thanks to this thread!