Hi Kent,

it is only talk about bugs - I know many people who do not like milk or estimate it as not healthy. They breed in mixture of oat, almond, soya, rice, whatever they want. Another possibility is Water Kefir or Kombucha. I believe in tradional probiotics, yes! I AM almost a vegetarian myself, because I do not eat mammals and seldom birds!

About carbs or not carbs in long-breeded yoghurt there exist several contrasting opinions among experts. For this reason I would like to find out exact numbers, I would like to know how it could be measured! I am searching now for some time for this information. Perhaps a chemist could help?

Milk itself is not a low-carb thing for sure, but with real bulgarian yoghurt, which tastes much more sour than ours, I am not sure! Yoghurt is not yoghurt as much as cheese is not cheese, depends on bugs, breeding time, temperature, etc.

Kind regards from oversea
The Duck

PS: I think you are right with this ridiculous food pyramide, which seems pure invention!