Why vegan meat substitutes are the worst junk food of all
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I was pleased as I started to read this article thinking that fake meat products have finally been outed as unhealthy fake meat products, but no. Even before I got to the meat of the article (yeah, yeah), I stumbled over this paragraph:
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Okay, let me be one of the "few" who disagree. These observations and claims are false, particularly when compared to the natural damage done by industrial plant farming. I know it's supposed to be a friendly, homey article citing what the author believes is true and obvious, but these statements are just unfounded nonsense. Now that I've got that out of the way, the remainder of the article should be required reading by anyone who believes the many fake meat products being produced today are a superior choice. It's just more processed food from plants and manufactured stuff continuing down the path that has lead the world's population to an epidemic of metabolic syndrome and its many diseases. It's not close to being a substitute for a healthy whole food (meat) high in protein and nutrients with which some have a moral issue. And the moral issue is only one of two reasons these fake products are being sold. The other is the massive financial gains from a hyper-palatable processed food masquerading as healthy protein. |
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I stumbled over the same quote. I too disagree about the assertion that limiting meat and increasing vegetables is just commonsense agreed to by virtually everyone. Simply put the problem is industrial production, be it plants or animals. We need to align healthy eating with healthy means of production not some pie in the sky idealism that asserts that eating meat is bad and eating plants is good. It's much more complicated and nuanced than that. |
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I raised an eyebrow at the same quote. Obviously the author does not truly understand that if your "healthy diet" requires that you take supplements to provide that which your diet totally lacks, then it's not a healthy diet. On the other hand, I found these 2 paragraphs really stood out to me: Quote:
The plant based chutney, jam, and apples really gave me a giggle. We don't have a Trader Joe's nearby, but our daughter has one where she lives, and enjoys finding various seasoning mixes for us to try. One time she gave us "Vegan chickenless seasoned salt". I pointed out to her that seasoned salt is and has always been vegan and chicken-less. What a marketing ploy for the gullible anti-meat brigade! Quote:
The bolded parts in this paragraph - Oh so true! These products may be made from plants, but the product is more manufacturing plant based than in any way resembling any kind of plant found on any farm or in any garden. |
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All hope lost right there. Because it's NOT possible with vegans, it really isn't. These people who claim otherwise are either sick or they are cheating. Mind you, it doesn't take much animal matter to keep you from dying of pernicious anemia. Just the difference in insect content between India and Britain that is allowed in food is enough of a margin for Jains who emigrated to get into serious trouble. Once again, these were the people who followed the rules of their religion. I suspect, much like other religions, there are adherents who are not that strict in the privacy of their own home :) But the point is that even if someone is not actively dying -- and many vegan influencers and chefs have been told this by their doctors -- they are certainly not operating at optimum. Especially those like us, who responds to a low carb diet with so much better health. Especially those who try everything but, with no success. There's lots of us, actually! I think at least of third of the population are like us. If we get pushed into plant protein, I know I get a really low return on such sources. As a young adult, I tried vegetarian, and even eating eggs and cheese wasn't enough for me to stay healthy. I suspect I'd be one of the first to fall by the wayside in this future vegan world they want us to sign up for. Fortunately, it's still a consumer choice. And I don't care what it tastes like: that can be faked up so easily. The digestive upset from all the pea protein and soy derivatives means I can't eat it even if it did nourish me. Which it doesn't. |
I don't know if this should be in a separate thread (or even tacked to a Veganuary thread, since it was published in January), but it talks a bit about the fake meat issue and nutrition:
https://theconversation.com/plant-b...-healthy-173303 Here's some snippets from the article: Quote:
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I giggled at this snippet: Quote:
Finally the "DUH!" moment: Quote:
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When I started Atkins, I was at a crossroads in my struggles with health and weight. I am very grateful this was the right way as I constantly customize it for me. I was also haunted by an alternative with someone about a decade older who turned to food and was taking medicine, and it was like a reminder that i couldn't keep eating the way I was. I think the resurgence around the 2002 DANDR hit at the right time, because there was a new wave of people who were ready to give up entirely. |
Many years ago, I tried to eat only vegetarian foods for health reasons. The longer I was on that eating plan, the more health problems I had, and the more prescription drugs I took to treat those problems.
I got talked into going low-carb and cut out all grains and root vegetables and, amazingly, I lost 55 pounds and got off all the prescription drugs. I get most of my calories from meat and I have lots of energy. I would never go back to a vegetarian diet and always eat real meat, not the fake stuff. |
I ran across this in Food Business News:
Formulating keto-friendly foods It has a nice breakdown of food trends, for instance: Quote:
Keto is low-carb, but really, I am pleased calorie counting has slipped to 13%. And look at how many don't have an eating pattern, so I think people are open to good information. Sounds like they are considering the food and health link. But I don't know how much to trust their categories, though at least they explain this one: Quote:
Veganism thrives on products, and I admit I lured DH into keto world with shakes and bars. It's how I started. It's not a bad thing, but it can be done badly. And this is a real advantage: Quote:
But we all feel this one: Quote:
Still, keto junk food is at least moving in the right direction. Quote:
If this is the fast food of the future, road trips become much more casual :lol: |
There's still a lot of wild misinformation out there about what constitutes LC or Keto though.
I happened upon an article (actually, I think it's a blog) this morning that gave a list of all the best Keto alternatives for tortillas. https://www.tastingtable.com/974655...-for-tortillas/ Way down in the list of alternatives, it mentions this about using egg white wraps: Quote:
Not disputing that olive oil is a popular oil in keto foods, but I've had egg white wraps, and the reason they don't use egg yolks is that without the yolks, they no longer taste like eggs, since any kind of bread substitute that tastes like eggs is a big turn off to a lot of people. Admittedly I don't do strict keto, but to dump the egg yolks because of cholesterol, then add in olive oil? Just plain silly. Pardon the following rant - I've been around the LC block for about 20 years, so it's easy to tell when someone doesn't have a clue what they're talking about and is just cobbling together unrelated information and erroneous timelines, adding in a few things they made up along the way, as evidenced by just how off-the-mark this history and description of Oopsies turned out: Quote:
Original Atkins rolls following the same proportions of eggs and cream cheese mentioned in the linked cloud bread recipe were called Atkins Revolution rolls by Atkins himself. Most "cloud bread" recipes do not have the honey in them, and are actually the Oopsie recipe. Then the stuff about rolling the oopsie "dough" out flat to make tortillas... LOL!!! This isn't a dough - it's a very delicate whipped egg white batter! Try to roll it out and you'd just end up with the batter all over your rolling pin. The one thing they got right is that "oopsies" were developed when someone misread the 3 Tbsp of cream cheese in the Atkins Rev Rolls as 3 oz cream cheese (doubling the amount of cream cheese), and discovered that their mistake resulted in a bread-like roll that was soft right out of the oven, instead being hard (similar to a baked meringue cookie), very breakable when they first came out of the oven. |
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