Blue Zones, Birth Certificates, Oh My!
Surprisingly, search didn't come up with a thread title on Blue Zones, so I needed to add this one. It is too good to miss. Last week I picked up a copy of the Blue Zone Solution at a thrift store, knowing in general about "blue zones", but not having read the details before. You can imagine my surprise a few days ago (timing is everything, only a few chapters into book, not exactly riveting prose) when the following study was published, and now Mark Sisson provides his take on it. :lol: :lol:
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Funny, how easily we accept facts as real.
I realized some time ago, I dont get to go live where these people have long lives. Arriving at this as environmental varuables are far more than diet, or exercise. Im glad I stopped envying those centurians and ficus on what I can change in my life and my family's. Fasting. Maybe these poor people have benefitted from involuntary fasting due to lack of food, and when they do eat, its not laden with pestcides, its super fresh, and not contaminated by pathogens. |
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This really doesn't surprise me at all. My own MIL wasn't sure of her actual birth year. I'm not sure why this was, but I always suspected she must have lied about her age at some point in her life, and decades later (I think it was when she applied for social security), couldn't remember which year she was actually born. The county/town where her birth was recorded had lost all their records in a fire decades earlier (this happened long before there were such things as state-wide databases for birth records), and neither of her older sisters could remember exactly which year MIL was born either. (They did finally agree on a year that they thought must have been the year she was born) |
Funny how us humans can behave like lemmings and follow the latest health fad without concrete proof of research. Any positive association becomes the next best thing usually based purely on anecdotal information and at least one "expert" jumping in to support the trend. Usually, these fads make enough sense for someone to provide a plausible description that people buy lock, stock and barrel. Respectful skepticism, on the other hand, has always served me well.
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Even doctors dont require "concrete" proof to then dictate advice to patients....
Seems like it is up to the masses to disern the truth. Or the few professionals willing to buck the system.... |
People who smoke and work outside most of their lives can look 80 when they are 40. Many have the same name as their parent or grandparent and the oral tradition of storytelling is a common. Just because an "oldtimer" can recite tales of WWI doesn't mean he himself was there. He probably heard the stories on grandpa's knee and the vividness of the stories usually increases with each retelling.
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An interesting article on old age exaggerations.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062986/ |
Fun snippet from the New York times in the '70s;
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I dunno. 'Long-living people' sounds suspiciously like a phrase for 'old people' to me. The claim of what constitutes good data on aging here was pretty crummy. If you're going to fraudulently take on an older relation's identity, you're in a position to know something about them. https://www.nytimes.com/1971/12/26/...aces-in-an.html Looked this up because I remember decades ago reading about welfare fraud in this region, with people claiming to be older relatives. I'm not sure I even fault people doing what they thought was necessary to get by in Soviet Russia... Liked the beginning of the article; Quote:
Sometimes there's a good reason why somebody looks 70... When there's an article where the latest holder of the 'world's oldest person' title finally passes away--these people are generally better documented--I've notice that they never look no more than 70. In fact--they pretty much look how you'd expect them to look. Maybe we should just learn to be highly suspect of any data set that makes the PCRM smugly nod their heads in agreement. Of course people surviving largely on corn meal mash would be long-lived. :agree: |
Yes, the amber liquid type from the charred oak barrels . . . . . those who look 80 and are really 38. :cool:
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Dr. Valter Longo's 2016 book The Longevity Diet gets more into blue zones and is probably a more credible read.
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I've lived in California, Texas, Nevada, Norway, Germany and France. All my personal Blue Zones. :lol: I still believe it's about diet and lifestyle more than location. But maybe that's your point.
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When I was a child, it was all about the Hzunda (not sure of spelling, can't find it online) and yogurt. :)
I think how a person's genetics reacts to their environment is the real key to health. As a child, I grew up in a farm tradition where the goal was "meat at every meal." Or it wasn't a meal. And for generations these people had brought over their ancestral farming, herding, and eating patterns. Until puberty, that's how I ate, and I was healthy and energetic. Now, I do a version that works for a body that needs maintenance, not growth, which eliminates the carbs. I still eat my favorites, actually! I knew lots of people, including family, who lived into their nineties. But if you moved them to somewhere else, with different foods and patterns: they would not. Famously, "retiring to Florida," became something of a death sentence. I think it was because they didn't handle the sun the best way, ate out a lot more, snacked a lot more, got bored a lot more. That cut into their potential span. |
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