WeightWatchers CEO says we ‘got it wrong’
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Very interesting! And will be to most women here who have memories of the weekly weigh-ins and little books! Good luck with re-branding WW and finding members who are not totally pissed off about the years wasted doing a program that Never. Ever. Worked in maintenance.
Thank you for copying the article, though I did find it reprinted without a paywall https://ca.style.yahoo.com/weight-w...-142220518.html with helpful photos of a 1960s style weigh-in :lol: and a stunning Oprah portrait. Oprah admitted to her "insiders" in March that she had already been on Ozempic for her T2 diabetes for a year and a half, with the "side effect" that she lost 45 pounds. :rolleyes: but confirmed on the 13th how she is now using it as needed. https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness...ry?id=105631132 Gorgeous in an evening dress for Color Purple at age 70. |
PR release from WeightWatchers International ...
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Thanks for sharing this!, Doreen.
Love that they keep inserting the word scientific (implying previous plans were not?) and then admit up front that there is "significant loss in muscle". Quote:
Mentions side effects too. Members could have focused on dietary protein on their own to lose weight and minimize muscle loss, but now WW can charge them for something any free app can do as well. |
I continue to find the promotion of GLP-1 medications questionable, especially when potential dangers are not also mentioned. Weight Watchers, whatever its initial intention, is about now about profit, first and foremost, as far as I can tell. We here know that there are ways to lose weight, safe and effectively, without sacrificing long term health for short term results and in fact enhancing long term health.
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Jean, 100%! And the side effects are being reported on the same news outlets where interviews with the new WW CEO are shown.
Yesterday, along with the WW press release was: Poison center calls related to injected weight-loss drugs up 1,500% https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023...loss-drugs.html Again they think these involve the compounded versions though there are side effects with all of them. Side effects can be seizures and passing out ( in addition to the risk of stomach paralysis ) increasing emergency dept/paramedic visits. |
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I once read somewhere that side effects are no different than main effects, they are simply effects of what the drug does. The only difference between main effects and side effects is that the main effects are the ones that are wanted and the side effects are the unwanted ones. Clearly, in drug ads, the main effects are highlighted, given top billing accompanied by pictures of happy people in beautiful settings, while the side effects are listed very quickly at the end, as if they were not worthy of attention. Can you imagine if the side effects were listed slowly accompanied by pictures of the miserable people experiencing them? |
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This is correct. DD2 worked for a drug testing analysis company right out of college, and explained this to me back then. (although with her double major in biochemistry and molecular biology, while working on cancer drug studies in college, pretty sure she already knew it before working there) When developing new drugs, they work to minimize the unwanted side effects, while maximizing the desired side effect. |
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I wonder how long it'll be before there's a class action lawsuit against WW for their decades of selling an unsustainable diet as THE answer to weight problems. It sounds like they're trying to do damage control by switching to drug based adherence to their diet, rebranding overweight as a medical condition that can only be treated with drugs - absolving themselves of any responsibility for the shame and blame they put women through at those meetings by trotting out "we were wrong, we just didn't know it wasn't your fault and was actually a disease" (What happens when the weight loss drugs have similar - or far WORSE problems - will WW just point to the drug mfgs and deny any responsibility again?) |
A Washington Post opinion piece from a staff writer who has used the WL drug for 2 years.
My weight-loss program now has Oprah’s seal of approval. But I still have questions Obesity is now a disease that no amount of willpower can control: “I realized I’d been blaming myself all these years for being overweight, and I have a predisposition that no amount of willpower is going to control,” said Winfrey, who turns 70 next month. “Obesity is a disease. It’s not about willpower — it’s about the brain.” https://wapo.st/3ToXc1G |
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Thing is, we did it, because we weren't looking for magic. What floods the zone, and messes it up, are the promises of paying to have all the work done, when "doing the work" of balancing hormones, smoothing moods, and getting rid of the brain fog only comes from figuring it out. And then living it, consistently. I don't think any of us got here by someone else telling us what to do. Real success is not in the weight loss, it's in learning OUR version of Maintenance, and yet, no one finds that glamorous enough to promote. Then again, WW might be onto something with all these different angles, because that's what people need. It's what they WANT, certainly. If you can't think for yourself, perhaps you do need something like this version of WW. With people dying already, I don't think it will be so "Sunny in injectableLand" a couple of years from now. I feel terrible about it, but people will do ANYTHING but change their soothing habits. I think their brains literally cannot imagine it. |
There is also the addiction angle - we all know that carby foods are addictive. We've all been through the withdrawal from them, and it's not easy at all. The more addicted you are, the more difficult it is. The more glycogen your body is storing - the longer it takes to eliminate the excess and therefore the longer it takes to get through induction flu.
There was someone on the LC forums a couple decades ago (no idea if he's still around or not - can't even recall his name), but he went through no less than 6 weeks of induction flu (or was it 8 weeks? I remember it was an unusually long time) before he was finally through that stage. Never mind that induction flu generally only lasts 2 weeks - how many people would be able to stick to a diet (any diet) for a full 2 weeks when they continually feel awful and crave the very things that they can't have? Not to mention that those working in an office setting are going to be subject to exposure to the cakes and donuts and cookies and candy that they crave every single day. Every meeting -there will be snacks. The break room will have snacks. Even the places that have gone to only allowing "healthy" snacks in their break room or at meetings - those will be things like whole grain crackers, apples, oranges, and bananas: in other words still carbs. For those who work from home, if they have any kind of social life at all, there's still going to be going out/ordering out to eat (a mine field in and of itself), grocery store temptations to buy treats "for the kids" or to have on hand for guests. It's especially a problem at this time of year when every time you turn around there's a party or a dinner full of temptations. Then there's the friends and neighbors dropping by with their well-meaning tray of homemade cookies or a box of candy. Unless you have an iron will when it comes to those treats, AND live alone so that you can simply graciously thank the gift giver, then throw them in the trash after they leave - those temptations are going to be very difficult to resist when you're fully carb addicted. I think that's a lot of the reason the injectables are gaining in popularity - it's just so freakin' hard to avoid the temptations to indulge in carbs, and the injectables at least minimize your interest in food in general, plus reduce your appetite to the point that you feel stuffed after only a very small amount of any food, whether it's carby or not. (Although carbs - except sugar - are far easier for them to digest than fats and proteins, so they don't even need to struggle to overcome their carb addiction, also a plus for those who have a strong carb addiction) Also the injectables do improve lab values for blood sugar and A1C readings, so as long as they're losing enough weight to off-set how bad they feel on the injectables, they're going to continue with it - at least as long as their insurance will continue to cover it, or if they can afford to cover the cost themselves. I'm definitely not in favor of reliance on those diet drugs, but unless (until) the damage lawsuits start, they're going to continue to be available. |
“Obesity is a disease. It’s not about willpower — it’s about the brain.” But if your brain chooses the right real foods, you don't need willpower or Ozempic, which may manage the weight symptom, but if you continue to eat crap, your bad health symptoms will remain.
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I agree absolutely. Over a decade ago I spent some time reading about the history of medicine and one of the things that has really stuck with me is that there is no single definition of “disease”. It is not a term that has a fixed scientific meaning with fixed criteria to determine whether or not something is a disease. Currently its use seems to imply that the problem is not someone’s fault because it resides in the body, and furthermore this often leads to the assumption that the only way to fix it is with a physical agent like a medication. At least that is what the pharmaceutical companies would like you to believe. In other words it gets the patient off the hook, “I’m not responsible”, and makes the pharmaceutical companies rich. |
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The medical profession did it to themselves pushing the food pyramid. I put on an extra 100 pounds eating "healthy carbs" and counting calories, which never kept my weight and moods stable or predictable. So when the medical profession slammed Dr. Atkins, who had real science all through his book, I was willing to try something different. Sounds weird, but 20 years ago there was only ONE way to eat healthy, and it was wrong for everyone. So I'm not surprised anyone who suffered through the "you must be doing it wrong" phase was willing to not listen to them at all. The pretty people with the easy payment system looked (literally) better to them. Supposedly, you could get your money back. And the stories we heard about doctors and dieticians and diabetic coaches who visibly didn't do well on these regimens, either. |
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