Vegans 40% more likely to suffer a bone fracture
Vegans 40% more likely to suffer a bone fracture
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Very disturbing to see such a significant increase in bone fractures due to avoiding beef and similar meats. That info offered concrete data from studies.
On the other hand this info did not, and is very weak . Quote:
From personal experience cutting carbs drives down bp, and dr fung and others use vlc to control diabetes. As a sheep raiser, grazing cattle and sheep is BETTER for the environment. Their vague statement is misleading. Feedlot style production has many problems but the increasing demand for meat due to an increasing population will need the feedlot operations. Or. 100,000 head dairy operation planned by Russia to supply China. That was announced a couple years ago, but I've not heard if it's up and running Small operations with a few head per farm , like a family cow, doesn't have the negative impact. Food for thought. |
This is developing into a fur fight (yes, intended). Statements volleyed by both sides seem to focus on disease resolution, and that's likely, but I can attest to the fact that since I went strict low carb eating primarily meat, and of that meat, primarily red meat, my BP has normalized, my sleep apnea has resolved, my skin tags shriveled and disappeared years ago, my blood lipid scores recently have been good, my inflammation scores using hsCRP have consistently been 0.4 with anything 1.0 and below being an excellent score, and I require no meds of any kind. Yes, initially the doctors were amazed, but I wasn't, and now they're coming around to understanding the ability to achieve health through eating lifestyle.
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Maybe some can do this as vegans or vegetarians, but the additional supplements required to keep one at optimum health requires focused attention and high maintenance. Humans have evolved as omnivores and nutrient dense foods (meat, fish) are most healthy. I respect those who feel an ethical push to not eat animals, but they need to learn, understand, and limit the shortcomings of their WOE. |
Rob, thanks for mentioning the loss of skin tags.....a rarely mentioned benefit/ sign of controling blood sugar.
IMHO, quality beef is the key. Grassfed, least accumulation of pesticides and herbacides..... Gmo corn and gmo soy is typical feed of livestock in US. |
Maybe the Vegans were simply more active, like running, jumping and playing about - I've only broken bones having fun, never sitting on the internet trying to make sense of confusing studies.
But who knows - there might be some truth in there somewhere! ;) |
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Yep, lots of confounders. The science of diet is H.A.R.D! So many variables and the time scales are like aeons - that shouldn't keep us from trying, just keep us from drawing definitive conclusions too quickly :) |
I really understand where Flic Everett is coming from. I never quite made it to veganism, but was lacto-ovo-vegetarian for many years. From an ethical perspective I would be so happy if it were true that veganism was the best, healthiest diet for humans and would be prepared to give up foods I enjoy. But we live in a morally distasteful universe, it's like a strand of The Problem of Evil discussion.
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I don't know how I started out, but after decades of dutifully "eating healthy" I can now lead a normal life only by eliminating all sources of lectins (which includes gluten) as much as possible.
On top of that daunting challenge, I am continually informed that my "radical fad diet" eliminates all nutrient sources and I'm going to die from it. No one asks me how my autoimmune condition is doing, because they wouldn't like the answer. It is in remission, thank you. If they had it their way, I'd be on dangerous drugs I can't afford. And people (except the likes of ourselves) are still ignoring Dr. Terry Wahls, who started out singing praises for vegetables and now advises that people KETO as much as they can stand. We can't make up our own science. |
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