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Nancy LC Mon, Nov-29-21 10:30

I have a cat that can only eat chicken. Any additives, outside of his nutritional supplement powder, causes severe diarrhea. And I think he's pretty sensitive to fat as well, so I stick to chicken breast for him. Poor guy, but feeding him his meat-only diet also solved his issue with crystals in his urine.

Benay Wed, May-18-22 09:07

Update
The problem persists - not making it to the bathroom on time is a real pain
NP suggested Benefiber
Dr. Davis suggests fermented foods and green tea - I don't even like the smell of green tea!
No bloating or pain just uncontrollable diarrhea

Benay Wed, May-18-22 09:16

I drink 1 cup of tart cherry juice daily to control my gout
Unfortunately, it is not low car or keto
but it works for gout
is it causing IBS?

doreen T Wed, May-18-22 14:19

Quote:
Originally Posted by Benay
I drink 1 cup of tart cherry juice daily to control my gout
Unfortunately, it is not low car or keto
but it works for gout
is it causing IBS?

Pure tart cherry juice has roughly 29g carbs per cup, which is mostly fructose. It could very well be contirbuting to IBS :exclm:

There are supplements of tart cherry extract in capsule form, which contain no sugar at all. Perhaps this could be an option for you? I checked online and see there are many brands available with a wide range in price.

Important to look specifically for extract of prunus cerasus, NOT prunus avium which is the sweet variety and doesn't have the same polyphenol content.

I might look into this myself .. although I don't have gout, I do have elevated uric acid. Older brother had gout and suffered greatly .. I'd like to prevent it without having to eliminate meat from the diet :rolleyes:

JLx Wed, May-18-22 15:41

White tea has many of the benefits of green tea but has less grassy tea taste. I put lemon juice in mine. The other option is to mix it with some flavored herbal tea like cherry.

Dr. David Perlmutter has a new book out about uric acid. Lots of stuff on his website and also in interviews he's done to promote the book: https://www.drperlmutter.com/focus-area/uric-acid/

JEY100 Thu, May-19-22 04:11

Benay, to add another list of suggestions for IBS-D, read Dr William Davis's new Super Gut book. I just got my copy from the library and there is a LOT to wade through, plus I don’t have IBS so have not been good about retaining all his suggestions, skimming the detailed instructions.

But after reducing the "bad" microbes, much of his new protocol involves making your own yogurt with specific strains of bacteria, eating certain fibrous and fermented foods, adding some processed fibers…there are many steps! though he is always giving alternatives to make it "easy" and more practical. He has some new versions of his yogurt recipes to try as well.

I believe Jean, cotonpal, is a member of his Undoctored group has made the yogurt ?? And maybe WearBear has the book??

Benay Thu, May-19-22 07:22

Thanks all. I went on the FODMAP site to get the list of recommended foods as well as other sites. Many acceptable foods are hi carb.
I get Dr Davis newsletter and this last one recommended eating fermented foods several times a day and to drink green tea.
Doreen, thanks for the suggestion of tart cherry juice capsules. I wondered if they were as good at preventing gout pain which is debilitating.
It's hard to know what to do with conflicting dietary suggestions. If it's good for one thing, it's bad for another.
Right at the moment, controlling the uncontrollable is my first priority
My low carb won't be as low as I would like it to be
Again, thanks all.
Yes, Jey, I will get Dr Davis new book. The first one blew me away.
Since Dr Mike is all over CO VID and is neglecting his food discussions, I appreciate Dr Davis even more.

WereBear Thu, May-19-22 11:38

I don't have Supergut from Dr. Davis, but it is just as well since I am on a rest regimen and don't have the energy for any extended kitchen activities.

Even so, I stay low carb while also avoiding lectins, which means only fermented or pickled plant foods, and it's done wonders for my digestion. I think IBS is/not considered an autoimmune disorder? Dr. Wahls might have helpful suggestions.

Good quality capsules of sour cherry NOW Brand has helped me, but I'm not sure. Gout in the family and it does things for my hand inflammation.

Benay Fri, May-20-22 04:38

WereBear
Do you have a link to Dr Wahls?
Do pickled plant foods include dill pickles?
FODMAP discourages cauliflower but broccoli is OK
Actually, I prefer cauliflower to broccoli
NOW brand tart cherry juice? I will look it up. Thanks.

Ms Arielle Fri, May-20-22 08:30

Benay, my dog had gi problems. I can't say his issues are the same as yours but I did find a diet that seems to work for him. When the vet was useless.

5 food types are totally eliminated, and added probiotics, digestive enzymes and tumeric at each meal.

No dairy,
no glutin.
No solanine, like potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant. It's a very large list so look up a complete list.

I'm trying to find my notebook with the complete list.

Took many many weeks, like two months.

Nancy LC Fri, May-20-22 09:18

Dairy doesn't cause IBS-D for me, but mozzarella cheese will get me into -C right quick. Eggs set me off. From the moment I eat them I'll hear my stomach gurgling loudly and then the expected result happens. I've just got a ton of food sensitivities that don't correspond to FODMAP necessarily. Gluten is definitely one of the worst things I could eat. I've been off that since around 2005.

Benay Fri, May-20-22 11:42

It really is a search and rescue operation, isn't it?
What works, what doesn't
What to try what to avoid
what worked yesterday doesn't work today
What to keep what to throw out
I had just discovered that cauliflower bread holds together much better than almond breads but now I must avoid cauliflower because of IBS
Sigh
This must be the penance for my sins

Benay Fri, May-20-22 11:43

[QUOTE=Ms Arielle]
5 food types are totally eliminated, and added probiotics, digestive enzymes and tumeric at each meal.

No dairy,
no glutin.
No solanine, like potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant. It's a very large list so look up a complete list.

Been there
done that

Benay Fri, May-20-22 11:46

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy LC
Dairy doesn't cause IBS-D for me, but mozzarella cheese will get me into -C right quick. Eggs set me off. From the moment I eat them I'll hear my stomach gurgling loudly and then the expected result happens. I've just got a ton of food sensitivities that don't correspond to FODMAP necessarily. Gluten is definitely one of the worst things I could eat. I've been off that since around 2005.


We truly are unique, aren't we?
Since reading Dr Davis I have been off grains.
My one downfall is corn. I have that periodically, with the expected result.
I wonder why I keep punishing myself.

Benay Fri, May-20-22 12:59

I was searching around for something to eat and spotted a can of tuna
Tuna is not on the FODMAP list as either good or bad
Meat is acceptable but does that include all fish?
Anyone know?

JEY I am trying to order Dr Davis new book from the library. I tried to ask them to buy it, I got bumped off their website. Sigh.


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