Cad/calp 2021
 

Hi everyone!
I know it’s almost February but I wanted to have a NEW place to post and for people to join in.

What I have learned lately is I do lose faster if I LC during the week and CAD on the weekends but........I am eating more junk on the weekends then when I was eating the CAD plan every day! I guess knowing that I have to wait a whole week to have some carbs somehow makes me crave the sugar and you know the junk!

So I’m back to my CAD plan and I’m going to try to remember to weigh myself everyday so I can average my weight.

I would like to eat in a window but I’m not sure about what hours are best.

16/8.....19/5.....20/4....or maybe a 24 hour fast every other day?

Also I would like to find some good books on eating more Whole Foods
something easy as I don’t like to cook often but a couple of recipes to incorporate into my weekly meals.

Sometimes I’m just all over the place in my eating but I’m glad to be back to my CAD. I think if I LC to much I tend to binge eat and I don’t do that on CAD unless it’s a holiday or my Birthday.

I think knowing I can eat what I want makes me WANT to eat more healthy but if I don’t and eat something crappy lol I just move on. Plus it stops me from continuing to eat junk as my 1 hour window is over!

Have a great day people💕

Keep it Simple <3
 

Glad to see ya back 💕.

Keep it simple. Try eating the plan D (in CAD) or plan C if you are still hungry.

Don't fast longer than 23 h, don't skip the RM and you will thrive.
A balanced RM is the fuel for your coming 23 h and kickstarts the fat burning & keeps you happy durring the day.

Never deprive yourself from a CM/RM.
Eat your CM when you are hungry. Have your RM around the same time if you can.
Take one day at a time, CAD/CALP ia a loving life span WOE.
Leave at least 90 min. window between CMs and RM.
I often eat my CM 2-6 h before the RM.
In CALP the CM is called The Craving-Reducing Meal for the right reasons.

Eating more Whole Foods sounds like a good plan. Make your RMs sallads tasty :), that has helped me. Going back to/rereading the books has helped me a lot.

Thank you Happy!
You have some great ideas for me and I appreciate you taking time to share.

I’m also going back to the book and reading the plans again. I really don’t understand why they want you to eat a salad with plan C and Plan D. Plan B doesn’t require a salad.

I’ve read thru some pages and I can’t find anything about the salad. I can only think that they feel the salad will fill you up so you don’t eat as many carbs.

I will have to read the whole book again next week as I don’t have time this weekend.

I like salads but I don’t always eat them every day. I find I like them more in the summer and sometimes don’t have the ingredients to make one. If it’s really that important I will make the effort to keep everything on hand.

Also I don’t like consuming soybean oil that there made of. I do make my own Mayo but when I try to make dressing it is always watery or doesn’t taste as good as the store bought. I like ranch or blue cheese.

I’m going to look for some good recipes and try again🤞

Yesterday,

2 black coffees

Bacon and eggs

Green drink made in ninja blender with spring greens, strawberries, and a little water and ice. Next time I will leave out the ice because the berries were frozen and it became to frosty.

Tyson lightly breaded chicken tenders and a slice of my homemade meatloaf.

Weight stayed the same but I am remembering to weigh daily and will average out.

This week I am eating in a 4 hour window 2-6
I do get hungry but it comes and goes. I have my CM at 2 then my RM before 6pm

Veggie shake
 

Hey Jeep,
good to see ya!

You are doing great.

Eat till you are satisfied.
Have another CM for breakfast or at least 90 min before or after a meal if you are still hungry, that's ok.

Treat yourself to feel full and happy, with balanced CMs and RMs . If the B plan or C plan is better go for it o even the entry plan. Make sure you are satisfied.
Whatever works best for your body. Fine tune :)

A veggie shake that is very creative. :thup:

I don't always eat sallad for my RM but instead i have more veggies (under 3% carbs) in my meal even a veggie soup or just LC veggies + dipp or sallad wraps ... and so on.
Sallad is still something I enjoy and eat on most days in my RM -because it works and keeps the pounds and cravings away.
💕

Chromium GTF - Glucose tolerance factor chromium
This has helped me. There is a hole chapter on it in CALP.
It might worth a try and could help you as well.
Chromium GTF* - must be taken just with water on its own f.i. before going to bed - so it works. It lowers the blood sugar.



Glucose tolerance factor chromium

Hi Happy,
I’m doing the CAD plan and it doesn’t require the balancing that the CALP does.

I just eat what I want for my RM, I’m not really a rule follower lol 😂 that’s why I like the CAD plan.

Veggie shake haha that’s my way of getting my salad greens and since it’s my RM I threw in the strawberries.

I too like salads just not every day. I’m making my own ranch and still fine tuning it. I make it with my HM Mayo I make with avocado oil.

I see your losing weight very proud of you! Sticking to it is key and I need to remind myself of that and not plan jump.

3rd day of 20/4 (2-6pm) I didn’t think I could do it but I’m loving it.

I’m not a veggie lover, all growing up I was made to eat my veggies and hated it now the only way I like them is salad or veggie soup

Hi ladies :wave:

I enjoyed the CAD eating plan as well. Intermittent fasting is the only way it worked for me tho. Sometimes it was an excuse to eat whatever I wanted, but that was ok as long as I ate within one-hour and fasted the other 23 hours every day. When I started to eat at other times during the day, and still ate junk, the pounds piled back on. :cry:
I'm now trying to eat twice per day and have a cut-off time, have a maximum calorie allotment and choosing better nutritious foods. I'm logging on cronometer all the foods I eat, to stay focused.

Hi Mojo!
I also eat 2 meals a day, one is my CM mostly protein then my RM usually with one carb.

On the weekends I eat what more carbs but only for the one hour a day.

I can’t do OMAD I just can’t eat enough food at one meal. I really make sure to get a lot of protein in everyday so I need two meals.
I’m hoping not to have to count calories but so many people do and they love doing it.

So are you OMAD or eating in a window? Maybe you can give CAD or CALP another try, not sure how many carbs you are eating but would love to have you join us. Are you following a certain LC plan?

I just saw your plan changed to CAD lol sorry for all the questions glad your back to it💕

The Sweet Serotonin Punch
 

Hi girls! 👋

I too love the IF effect.

I tried just IF but it didn't work long term for me but CAD/CALP keeps a handle on the blood sugar and still gives you that sweet serotonin punch for 23 h. Love that.
I too love "both" programs and use both books.

- Welcome back Mojolissa 💕, look forward chatting.

- Thanks Jeep, I am so glad you are too 💕 I am going to try your veggie smoothy when it gets warmer. :)


Bless you girls! Hope you'll have a great day both of you.

Hey girls-
Yes, I also have changed to 2MAD. I was getting hungry at night on OMAD, and that is an indication that I wasn't eating enough or eating the wrong things. Ravenous hunger (I call HANGRY) means I'm doing something wrong!!!
I need to make protein a priority, next veggies, fruits and so on. Cronometer tells me if I am getting enough to meet my daily requirements of Vitamins and Minerals.

Morning,
Well I didn’t make it to my fasting window yesterday I started eating at 8:30 am!!

I did eat protein, a couple of leftover chicken wings. I was so hungry and I know why. I woke up at 3 and could not go back to sleep. When that happens I just can’t IF.

Then I was having terrible cravings a few hours later all from lack of sleep. There’s nothing I can do about that when it happens it just happens!

So normally I have my CM for dinner, welp I couldn’t wait for it lol and really had quite the binge!😳

So of course you can imagine how I’m feeling this morning, tired again from the carbs and just feel crappy today. No one in my family understands why to many carbs makes me feel bad. They can eat them right up to bed time and be fine.

I had a few leftover temptations so in the trash they went before I get to hungry. I know I can have them for my RM but I just want to eat better today.

Drinking my black coffee now and I’m not sure if i will make it till 2 before I eat but as long as I stay on my plan (RM dinner) I’m good.

Have a great Friday!

💕Hi girls!

Hope both of you are getting some peace of mind.


Mo! Sounds like a good plan. :) See ya


Jeep!
Sounds like you need to be more flexible with the CMs. I also get hungrier earlier if I get upp early.

Plan ahead. Bring some boiled eggs and some cucumber f.i. in a plastic bag. Anything, cold meatballs? Eggs have saved me many times. Once I was attending a funeral gathering the food was sandwich cake + 7 sorts of homemade cookies, that was the lunch. I had a bag with eggs and sticks of veggies that I ate by the car right before we went in. I have had food in my handbag many times on the go even when flying. Beef Jurky. And water.

A simple CM emergency kit is very convenient.

<3

Hi,
I was here last spring (I think), but I didn't stick with the program. I am still the same weight and ready to try again. I was so glad to see some activity on the board for CAD.

Hi Carlie 💕

God bless you!

Treat yourself to reread the book and plan for a delicious and balanced RM today :).

Do some CM and RM grocery shopping, stash up
with ... CM veggies and protein LOL

Morning💕
I made it to 1 then had a ribeye that was very filling. Had my RM at 5. I didn’t eat much because the steak filled me up.

Happy, good idea bout the CM stash. Hard boiled eggs are so great to have on hand. All sweets for the food at the gathering would have been rough.

Welcome Carlie,
Glad to met you! This WOE is about the easiest to stick to of the LC plans. I like it because if I go off plan it’s easy to get right back on😉

Today black Coffee then probably a cheeseburger for lunch. Happy, I did buy some lettuce for a salad. Your always having them and now I’m craving one. I will have it with my RM so I don’t have to worry bout the carbs in the tomato and red onion.

I made more of my HM Ranch dressing and this time it came out thicker. I added a couple of tbsp of sour cream to thicken it up. Can’t wait to try it😋 I might add some baby shrimp to my salad for some extra protein.

Enjoy the day girls, sooo cold here definitely in deep winter 🥶

Carb in CM
 

I have forgotton...how many carbs are allowed in the CM? I used to eat this way and my mind is a blank now.

Thanks!

Hi Suze! <3

So glad you asked, good question.

The Short answer: Up to 4%
Beware of trigger foods, AS and glutamates, hidden sugars and filings.

Best source is the literature.

Cheat Sheet "ZULEIKA’S CAD/CALP CHEAT SHEET" (bump it up)
https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=117419

[B]Here are some Frequently Asked Questions FAQ's from the Drs Hellers page:
http://carbohydrateaddicts.com/eFAQS.html


Hi to Mo and Jeep! :wave: 💕

Love/
HG

Hi and Happy 2021 (I HOPE!)-

I haven't been on the site for months and came today and am so happy to see the new activity and wanted to pop in and say hi and welcome (back) to CAD and CALP.
I have been on CALP since 2003- and it has totally changed my life. If you find old posts, I started CALP to see if losing weight would lower my cholesterol. I had been on a very low fat diet for years following my doctor's orders. When he accused me of lying about my eating because my numbers were getting worse (after more than 10 years of low fat) I decided that when something you're doing isn't working you can do it harder or do something different. I chose different- and after reading a bunch of books I picked CALP and CAHHP as the plan that would be best for me. LC made sense to me- especially the geeky science stuff about insulin and insulin resistance- (I really liked the Protein Power books and some of Atkins too) but I knew myself and too many rules and restrictions wouldn't work. My DH also told me "I'm not changing my eating!"- so CALP worked as I could do the RM for dinner and give him his carbs and eat mine for RM. After 2 weeks on CALP I turned to my DH and told him that I felt 'normal' for the first time since I had my son, who was 15! I lost weight- cholesterol never really changed- but I feel so good on CALP that the rest is history.
I never go off plan. I eat 3 meals a day, no snacks. I eat 2 CMs and one RM. I try to balance my RM with salad then protein, veggies and a carb. I limit sugar and alcohol to typically 2x/week. I exercise daily- during Covid I take a long walk and skip the gym.

It does take discipline- but I have already decided this is my WOL so I will make it work. It's my body and my responsibility- and my choice.

In the beginning I did A LOT of planning- it was a very very steep learning curve for me - I planned all my meals and shopping and eating out (like looking at menus online before we went out and picking out my meal and not even looking at the menu at the restaurant) and daily reading of LC books. I found this site months after I started CALP- and until the last few years came everyday and posted. For me, failing to plan was planning to fail. I took it very seriously. In the beginning I would say to myself that if I really wanted something I could have it- at my next RM. Foods that others were eating that looked great and I really wanted (chocolate croissant anyone?) - I would and still say "it's just food and I've had it before and can have it again. Not worth going off plan and getting sick over this". That helped. And treating myself to something- like a fancy espresso or bottle of water while they ate helped too. I could be and still am a bit flexible- if I want a cappuccino or a flat white I'm not going to stress over the milk or cream in the drink- but I know it's a treat. If I really want a certain carb with RM and a drink and the meal isn't balanced but carb heavy- I will have it knowing it's not a daily thing but I can be flexible as it's still in my RM and my other meals were CM. In the beginning I wasn't flexible at all- I had to be strict to make it stick.
I also am convinced that I would be diabetic and sick if I hadn't found CALP- and I know if I go off plan that will happen to me. It is a slippery slope going off plan- there are too many people who taught me that.
Now I don't need to plan as much- but I still make sure I have what I need for my CM breakfast and lunch and my RM dinners. I haven't gone out to eat at all this past year- and that led to more weight loss. I hadn't really realized how much I was eating for my RM when I ate out. Eating all my meals at home has tightened up my eating plan.
There isn't really a lot for long term maintainers here- and maintaining day in and day out is boring- but I think this plan is fantastic and I wanted to just say hi and tell you YOU CAN DO THIS.

Hi Eno!
I am so glad you passed by today. I was thinking of you earlier this morning.
Don't know if you remember me. I have recently reread the books, got a new CALP copy again and reread it twice now. I too love how it feels, it is really for life. <3
I too enjoy a cappuccino at times eating out as a treat or now at home once in a while.

May God bless you richly Eno.

Restart!
 

This has always been a super good group to be in. I am "old", 81, and struggle with my weight always. I have a hard time doing low carb (Atkins/Keto) because it never feels really good or even produces results. I have to lose 15-20 lbs., and if I even lost 1lb a week I would be thrilled. I never eat until noon-1pm, and then dinner. I have a difficult time just eating big pieces of protein and it just doesn't settle well. That said, CAD always appealed to me and for the life of me do not understand why I just didn't stick with it. I have been on this site for a loooong time and just keep gravitating back. What's up with that? Just give me some sort of good result and I am yours forever, lol! Anyway, restarting today and hope to stay on the train with you.

Thanks!

Eno, I remember how great you always were in this group and it's so nice to recognize someone! Please come by with your great insight more often!!

Hi y'all.
Just wanted to stop in and wish you all every success in your diet journey.

I used to chatter on here on the regular also and hold the CAD/CALP lifestyle in high regard. It helped me gain some modicum of control in the past.

Have not followed it in recent years but CM's are still what i'm aiming for.
Where i'm at now is to treat myself as though i have some sort of diabetes (although i don't officially have it) and i am learning from Denis Pollocks 'beat diabetes' youtube channel.

I realised i could not 'stick' to the CAD/CALP principles, i could not stay super low carb (4g per meal or less) for my CM's, i still had cravings,(esp. hormonal/stress related) no appetite for protein foods,
I had low energy, i also could not do intermittent fasting..so on Mr. Pollocks advice, i got myself a Blood sugar meter to see what was really going on and low and behold i was having for real 'hypos' of blood sugar and that was why i was a big FAIL on all those accounts.
It was not a matter of my being undisciplined. I REALLY needed to fall off plan.
So where i'm at now, (just 2 pounds over-weight last time i checked 3 weeks ago, not bad considering i was not diet focused, i was kind of just 'rolling with the punches'
I was working a very physical job where i was always walking, moving and on my feet for hours and i learned a lot on how what i ate affected my energy.
Having energy was the only thing i cared about and sometimes that meant eating sugary things like a biscuit and even some chocolate.
Although CM meals and snacks were what i was 'aiming' for during the working day.
So the CM i 'aimed' for may have just been more on the lower Carb side rather than 4g exactly.

So for me its kind of a goldi-locks effect, i just cannot go too low carb and high carbs do not suit me either. A sandwich for lunch would have me weak as water and super hungry an hour or two later for example.
Butter Bob on youtube i found good too, here i learned i possibly put out too much insulin at times. (He recommends fasting too but i got to take it so slow and so careful if and when i try this, if i do attempt fasting, it would possibly just mean low overall calories, not no food for hours on end. )

So to cut a long story short, i may not be a stellar CAD/CALP er success story, however i 100% believe in aiming for CM's that work for you. (As low as you can stand)
Hope that makes sense and helps someone else out there. Definitely don't give up on the idea of CM'S even if you cannot do them perfectly or are a CAD/CALP failure like me. They do help and help a lot.

Hope you all stay safe , healthy and well in 2021.

Morning💕

I’m down another pound and very happy with that!

Had a great weekend and stayed on plan, didn’t get much exercise because it is so darn cold out and going to be colder this week.

Welcome all the newcomers seems a lot of people coming back to CAD/CALP and that’s good to see.

Today I’m going to get out some of my old exercise dvd and start using them till the weather gets better. I prefer to be outdoors but I love how exercise lifts my mood.

I’ve been tossing around the idea to try the new apple Fitness+
You can watch on your iPad or iPhone or Apple TV. You can pay monthly or once a year I believe. I’m going to try out my dvd first and see how that goes.

Stayed up later then usual last night watching the super bowl so I’m having a little extra coffee this morning. I’ve been wondering if my coffee is messing with my insulin in the morning and was thinking once it was gone I “might” give it up.
I’ve been drinking it for so long and I would really miss it but feel I can get used to anything.

I would have to taper off so I don’t get the headaches, they are the worst. I say this as I’m drinking my larger cup of coffee lol

Chasing after Wind Vs. Elated with new inspiration
 

Hi girls!
Welcome back all of you! :rheart:

I just went all in for CALP 4th of dec. 2020, total reboot. I treated myself
to reread the books, CALP twice now, so glad I did. Elated with new inspiration. Thank God.


Congrats Jeep, good job. So happy for you! 🌟 :rheart::rheart::rheart:




Elated with new inspiration:

:cheer:

Big hug/Happy

I enjoyed all of your posts. Here is a question for you....have any of you ever calculated how many calories your RM is? Yesterday I had a casserole made of stew meat, potato, onion and topped with cheese. OMG, for 1C lettuce, 1T ranch dressing, 4oz of meat, 1C. potato, 1.2C onion and 1/2 cup cheese it was
900 calories, not to mention carbs. Is that how your RM's are going, lol? I don't eat B., just coffee with cream, L. is usually a collagen shake (2.8 carbs) and then my carbs come from dinner (39 grams).

Someone on the board used to post all of their RM's and it was a big help. She had a whole diary featuring her meals. Prolly long gone, lol!

HELP!

Hello all-
Glad to have some new people on here! I didn't realize that this WOE ties in with intermittent fasting so well. By combining these methods, I can eat what I want and still lose weight! It really is too good to be true (but it is true) :agree:
I do have to remember, not to eat outside of the 1 hour rule.
Watch for items that trigger hunger.
Do not snack- If hungry make it a CM meal
Drink water - instead of diet soda
Sleep - go to bed at a decent hour - it is so important for health as well as weight loss.

Hope everybody had a wonderful weekend and a great week ahead!

No need to count cal.
 

Hi Suze.
Good question.
I never count calories. Not mentioned in the books I've read so far either. Drs Hellers (CALP/CAD authors) never counts them either ...

Many still post their RMs I have, you can check out my journal if you like <3. I never count the carbs either in the RM I eyeball- balance. I'd be careful about the shake though. But you probably heard that before :) hidden triggers, AS ... I'd save that for the RM.


Hi Mo, good to see ya! <3



Today
BF decaf + 2 oz cream

CM the turkey slaw in sallad

RM sallad, soy beens, chicken leg quarters fried in the fennel oil, almonds butter, lemon + a little rice, chocolate croissant <3
it hit that "happy" spot. Love feeling so complete and fulfilled from a meal, only on CALP do I feel this way.

Happy Girl: Thanks so much. The shake formula I use is raw spinach (1.7), Ancient Nutrition Multi Collagen Protein (0Carbs), Ancient Nutrition Bone Broth Protein (2 gr), Almond Milk (1.1), Total: 4.8 Contains no sugars at all.

I hope that's OK but can eliminate the spinach to get lower. I use this about 3xweek and other days usually egg/bacon.

You said 4% carbs allowed in CM, or did you mean 4 carbs???

What do you think?

4% is correct.

Sounds like a very creative and healthy drink Suze!

Sounds ok if you don't feel any reactions.
The almond milk is a beverage some are sensitive to if it has a sweet taste/savoury taste even if it is sugar free, it can trigger some.

Here is a post on it.
https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=451279

Ever tried egg-milk? Just hot water, butter (virgin coconut oil or MCT oil works too) and eggs. Eggnog is cool as well. :)