Rheumatoid arthritis
 

Any threads, forums, blogs, or books for low carb & RA?

I guess the most important thing to remember is the different terms being used now which basically mean the same thing. But you probably already know them.
Low Carb
Keto
Paleo
These are loosely very similar.
What seems to be coming together is that Ketogenesis itself depresses the symptoms of many diseases/disorders by reducing inflammation.

Dr. Terry Wahls gave herself the ability to walk again even though she suffers from MS. Dr. Dale Bredesen has a protocol which is helping people with Alzheimer's Disease reclaim their lives. Dr. Permutter is do much the same for Parkinson's Disease. All the neurological disorders which attack the elderly can be mitigated by ketogenesis.

Specific to RA:
https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/po...-seamus-mullen/

AD:https://www.apoe4.info/wiki/Bredesen_Protocol

I hope this points you toward some information you can use.

The exciting new area for diet and RA is the Carnivore Diet. The poster girl for lifelong juvenile RA being controlled with diet is Jordan Peterson’s daughter, Mikhaile.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/the-glob...ivore-lifestyle

Our Zero Carb thread is still hanging out in the "war zone" http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=471960 but in the last year, the number of proponents has soared. It has its own Podcast and an attempt at Crowd Sourcing the results of eating Carnivore at: https://meatheals.com

The About Page at that site has links to hundreds of resources, the best one being: https://justmeat.co

This seems an extreme diet, but it is easy to try it as an elimination diet and after a month or so start adding back foods to make it more "Keto"...if pain does not increase.


If you are referring to the less damaging types of RA that develop later in life, Dr Davis has articles, of RA being Reversed with his wheat free Paleo style diet. https://www.wheatbellyblog.com/?s=Rheumatoid+arthritis+

When I consider how many supposedly different diseases there are that are helped or eliminated by adopting a keto diet or a carnivore diet I have to wonder about our tendency to think about diseases as separate entities. It seems to make more sense to consider them different manifestations of a similar underlying dysfunction. Terry Wahls says as much in her book. Of course in the long run it is important to understand why different bodies manifest different "diseases" but first things first. Adopt a diet that has been shown to be beneficial to so many people with so many supposedly different diseases, including RA. When my digestive problems were at their worst and I could barely leave the house I went on an all meat diet (I had never heard of a carnivore diet. It's just what seemed to make sense at the time.This was around a decade ago). Eating first only ground beef and then switching to only ground lamb really helped slow things down so I could have a life again. It also halted the progression of osteoarthritis in my fingers. I now eat vegetable too but remain keto. I think for most all autoimmune problems and the so-called lifestyle diseases, dietary change should be the first line of treatment. Of course I'm not a doctor so what do I know?

Well stated. I've come to the same conclusion. They may manifest themselves in slightly different ways resulting in different outward symptoms, and it makes sense as we are bound to experience different symptoms due to the differences in our respective phenotypes (genome plus environmental influences). Food is an environmental influence.

Check into Dr. Terry Wahls. A lot of people following her paleo-ketogenic diet have done really well with all kinds of autoimmune issues.

She started more vegetables paleo, but turned to more meat and fat later on.

Great info.

yup food is everything. When I go OP and LC my hands don't hurt any more, but when I eat and eat my hands hurt, like today, the knuckles just ache. ( NO RA diagnosis and don't intend to)

My hands tell me when I'm off plan. This is a new thing.

Dr Atkins started my thinking nearly 20 years ago that many diseases were related. And only recently pulled together how many are likely due to the SAD diet, MS, Alzheimer's, Parkinson, arthritis..... and the list goes on and on. So Im working hard to change my food sources and change my kids diets too. After all, these disease can take years to develop, so why not try to prevent what we can.

Yes good food may cost more, but the cost of drugs, doctor appointments and disability costs too. I'm willing to pay now, rather than pay later.

I haven't got a diagnosis yet, but when I went to the orthopedic specialist yesterday, he was concerned about the amount of fluid he had to remove from both knees & wants me to be checked out for RA. He thinks there is more inflammation than warranted by the injury from more than a year ago.

Being a t2 diabetic, I've been following Dr. Bernstein's recommendations - tho for the last 6 months I've been eating more carbs than before - mostly cheese & peanut butter. Absolutely no sugar, wheat or any grains, beans or legumes (other than the PB), or processed meats except bacon on occasion. I haven't had any cheese or PB for over a week now & feel better already.

What had me concerned was reading online at RA sites that lowering the amount of red meat helps - I eat red meat at least 4-5 times a week. Other protein is eggs, rabbit, & fish. They also say to eat more fruit - not gonna happen! I KNOW that doesn't help my BG.

I'd heard of Dr. Wahls & will check out her info & the other sites mentioned. Tho I really don't want to go zero carb unless I absolutely have to - I like my veggies.

Thanks everybody!

Bonnie, Dr Atkins was all about moving from 20 carbs a day to more after the 2 weeks of Induction. I eat a far wider variety of veg since starting DANDR almost 20 years ago. Partly because we have a great variety in the stores now.

I eat little fruit because in reality a wise choice of vegies will get you the same nutrients as the fruits. Look to the rainbow, and use the glycemic index for help if need be. I do eat some fruit, but have learned it is ok to cut up an apple and eat only 1/4. ANd I look for the smaller sizes at the grocery. I keep frozen fruits like cherries and blueberries and strawberries in the freezer , but only take out a few at a time. Basically I depend on the boxed organic mixed greens to help. ANd sometimes I sautee them in butter, or other tasty fat.

A chef mentioned this monring that raddichio becomes sweet when it is sauteed--- "who knew?" -- is the chef's favorite saying.

Beef. This is one of my fav meats. So I thought about how to decrease the inflammation in my body--- my hands flare up these days if I fall off the wagon. Here is my understanding so far. Beef is a meat with marbling-- meaning the fat stay within the meat during cooking for the most part. Whereas chicken and poultry will have the fat deposits on the outside in chunks; the dark meat has some fats with in the meat and white breast meat is very lean. When livestock are fed a corn/soy diet this lacks vita min A and the fat content is altered: the omega 3's are much higher in grass fed than in feed lot fed cattle/ cows. Once a grass fed animal is moved to a feed lot the omega 3 drops and the omega 6 rises. We are supposed to be about 1;4 mega 3 to 6's. IMO this is why studies of people eating ONE fish oil is not changing the blood profiles. Hard for one pill to outpace all the fat in a steak. You might consider how to get these two micronutrients in balance.

I eat a lot of garlic, and the onion family like scallions and leeks for low carb alternatives to bulb onions. Though I do cook with pounds of onions a week for my family-- it is a basic flavoring to most dishes.

Turmeric and black pepper---- a slice of salt and peppered beef with mustard and horse radish is wonderful. Horseradish has special properties worth including, though in small amounts unless you like your nasal cavity to clear out. lol

Find Dr purlmutters works.

Glutin-- as you have dropped all grrains, this should nt be an issue. It hides in lots of things other than grains.

I try to remember to bring my own salad dressing, and honestly have been trying to make more and more of my own as the ingredients now have me rethinking their effects. Seems like every time I eat out, no matter how carefully, I go off the rails.

I buy more organic than ever before. Not everything but working on it. There are far too many chemicals sprayed onto our foods-----

Don't forget you can sprout your own sprouts for a lot less money too.

Do you know your vitamin D3 level? My girlfriend had RA went through intravenous treatments which didn't help much. When I finally convinced her to start high dose vitamin D her symptoms stopped and went away.

Come to find out her doctor did do a D test. Her level was 3.

Vitamin D affects all parts of the body including the immune system.

Cholecalciferol and Rheumatoid Arthritis
An Evaluation of High-Dose Vitamin D for Rheumatoid Arthritis
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4089514/

Clinical aspects of vitamin D in the management of rheumatoid arthritis
https://academic.oup.com/rheumatolo...11/1617/1789081
Superiority of a High Loading Dose of Cholecalciferol to Correct Hypovitaminosis D in Patients with Inflammatory/Autoimmune Rheumatic Diseases
https://www.researchgate.net/public...atic_D iseases

I've never had my D level tested, but I take 3000 IU daily for SAD; that, along with my sun lamp, have helped my mood a lot. Don't know if that's considered a high dose.

While I cannot recommend a dose per se, I too live In the northeast where the sun now sets at 6:30. I take 6000 units most days.

I do wonder what blood testsfor bit D would show for field workers exposed everyday all day.

You need to have Vit D level tested to have any idea what the appropriate amount of supplementation should be. But for me, aiming for at least 60ng/ml for prevention of breast cancer recurrence, I take 5,000 in summer and 10,000 in winter. My last test in February was close to 100ng/ml so I backed off somewhat this year. My oncologist does the test every year now.

Janet, is there a specific name for this test as I have seen several used in the clinical trials, but the most accurate is very expensive. Would like to ask my primary but she is likely to not know much about this.