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Nancy LC Fri, Sep-11-15 10:17

Avocado fast
 
I was reading somewhere that for the purposes of ketosis that avocados were about perfect. Low in protein, high in fat. So I'm going to go on a 2-day avocado fast. Let's see how it goes!

Aradasky Fri, Sep-11-15 10:29

Nancy, why not a fat fast?

http://www.carbsmart.com/fatfast.html

Nancy LC Fri, Sep-11-15 11:39

It is essentially a fat fast, but no dairy products and probably a bit lower in protein. I wish I could remember where I read about the avocado being perfect for this purpose. Argh!

NoWhammies Fri, Sep-11-15 13:03

I love avocados. I would happily go for days and eat nothing but avocados. Let us know how it goes, Nancy.

Liz53 Fri, Sep-11-15 13:17

Avocado Fat Fast - brilliant! Apparently, avocados are now favored for introducing solid food to babies. It's soft, not especially sweet, full of healthy fat - what's not to like? Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Nancy LC Fri, Sep-11-15 13:54

I wish I could take credit for the idea, but I read about it somewhere. Besides, got a ton of them in the fridge!

Aradasky Fri, Sep-11-15 14:05

oh man, I Love avos..... but even better if I include macs...

Nancy LC Fri, Sep-11-15 15:18

Well, if I were to do this at work, I'd probably take some macs with me. Good idea!

Nicekitty Fri, Sep-11-15 20:50

What the heck are macs?

Hmm, I could eat a meal of just guacamole, that sounds yummy, but I'd have to have some kind of carrier to stand in for the tortilla chips. Plantain chips?
(googling)....
Dang, plantains have carbs. Well maybe a cheese crisp would do.

Aradasky Fri, Sep-11-15 22:34

macs= macadamias

I LOVE the different ways you can get good fat.

Kristine Sat, Sep-12-15 05:39

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicekitty
Hmm, I could eat a meal of just guacamole, that sounds yummy, but I'd have to have some kind of carrier to stand in for the tortilla chips. Plantain chips?
(googling)....
Dang, plantains have carbs. Well maybe a cheese crisp would do.


If it were me, I'd be doing dried zucchini or cucumber chips, or flax crackers. Dehydrator recommended over oven drying. :yum:

Nancy, I think I've done quite a few I-have-too-much-(x)-in-the-fridge fasts. ;)

JEY100 Sat, Sep-12-15 06:40

A benefit to living in CA...avocados are always expensive here, I'd never have "too many" in the fridge. Lucky you.

I watched Jimmy Moore a few minutes ago With an update on his complete fast...someone asked how it compared to a fat fast. He said he (and Christine) were always hungry on a Fat Fast, but now on day ten of his full fast, he has had almost none of that. Day 2 was hard, no hunger since then. Avocados are so tasty, let us know how you do hunger wise.

bkloots Sat, Sep-12-15 10:00

Quote:
A benefit to living in CA...avocados are always expensive here,
At my regular grocery, avocados were 2/3.00 last time I looked. Ack! I can get them cheaper by the bag at Costco--but I can't eat them fast enough! So...still a treat food for me. Maybe I should just decide that $1.50 isn't too much to pay for such a sublime pleasure?

Nancy LC Sat, Sep-12-15 10:23

You can put them in the fridge and they ripen much slower. That's what I do nowadays. Leave them out until they just start to soften and then pop them in the fridge. They can last days longer that way.

Eating first avocado now. Hmmm... Just realized I only have 5 more. Not sure that will last 2 days. Maybe Trader Joe's will have some ripe ones.

Kristine Sat, Sep-12-15 10:32

I wonder why avocados are always cheaper here in Canada. They're on sale somewhere most of the time 3.49 for a 5-pack. Sometimes, even cheaper than that. I only buy the 5-packs. I do the fridge trick. I have one left right now from a bag I bought two weeks ago. :thup:

Elizellen Sat, Sep-12-15 11:26

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy LC
I wish I could remember where I read about the avocado being perfect for this purpose. Argh!
According to the USDA database a "California" avocado has 82% fat so it should be a good "fat fast" option

Nancy LC Sat, Sep-12-15 12:14

Tj's had some ripe ones today. Phew!

teaser Sat, Sep-12-15 14:50

Most of the non-fat "calories" are fiber, at that. Toss them out and it's more like 90 percent fat.

The magnesium and potassium don't hurt.

Awesome news about the fridge, ripe on Wednesday, rotten Friday always sucks.

teaser Sat, Sep-12-15 15:19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeHMRbMqmNk

I think I met this fellow a few years ago, my friends had him as a guest one weekend. How many professional bodybuilder/competitive eaters named Pete could there be in Mississauga? This is a video of him eating 20 large avocados, 8000 calories.

Nancy LC Sat, Sep-12-15 15:43

LOL! Wow... that's a few calories! I've had one avo so far and it is almost 3pm. Pretty good for coming down off a carb filled day. But stomach is starting to make demands now.

walkmeup Sun, Sep-13-15 04:36

I've read this thread yesterday so I registered. I started avocado fast yesterday. I had been thinking of starting a green vegetable fast but they are so low in calories. I wouldn't be able to eat enough. It is totally a coincidence that I realized the best green veg in calories and carbs is avocado. It wasn't a part of my diet as a kid so I knew nothing about it. I didn't know it is the perfect veg in fat and carbs, and I think also in proteins.

I've tried Bulletproof Rapid Fat Loss Protocol before, and it was the only diet that worked for the last 5 years for me. But, I don't like butter so I couldn't go on. For me, it was kind of luck to discover avocado. I've already lost 3 pounds in one day. 33 to go. I'm planning to add rice with coconut oil and a glass of red wine in a week. And this as a whole sure can be my lifestyle.

teaser Sun, Sep-13-15 05:27

Why add rice and fat to this diet, once the fat fast part is complete? Why not protein? Outside of a fat fast, avocado is marginal in protein, rice is marginal in protein. Add fat and alcohol, and you get something below marginal... The point of a fat fast is to keep insulin as low as possible, without actually doing a complete water fast. Add rice and you lose that, and you lose the improvement in lean mass retention that you'd get if the added calories came as protein rather than carbohydrate.

walkmeup Sun, Sep-13-15 05:55

I can switch it with green lentils. But when I don't get any carbs after a week or so, I stop losing weight. It was the case during the rapid fat loss. I found it out when I gave up on the protocol and ate some rice. In two days I started losing again. Then I read somewhere women can use a small amount of carbs to overcome a plateau. Unfortunately it was years ago and I may not be able to find the source of information. However it worked with my body.

jschwab Sun, Sep-13-15 09:05

Quote:
Originally Posted by teaser
Why add rice and fat to this diet, once the fat fast part is complete? Why not protein? Outside of a fat fast, avocado is marginal in protein, rice is marginal in protein. Add fat and alcohol, and you get something below marginal... The point of a fat fast is to keep insulin as low as possible, without actually doing a complete water fast. Add rice and you lose that, and you lose the improvement in lean mass retention that you'd get if the added calories came as protein rather than carbohydrate.


I am rusty on all this stuff, but is the fat fast supposed to have lasting effects beyond the fast? If it's temporary, why do it? I can't remember the reasoning behind it. Is it just to reset after carb creep?

teaser Sun, Sep-13-15 09:31

The original recommendation by Dr. Atkins was to break through a stall/allow weight loss for people who were so metabolically resistant that they didn't lose weight on induction.

I've found it useful if I've strayed a bit. Not usually stuff that high in carbs, but if I eat peanuts/nuts or cheese, sometimes I'll have an out of control appetite and start craving other stuff. So I'll go very heavy on cream, coconut etc., to really push the ketosis. Not necessarily that low in calorie. Anyways, next day my appetite's normal. Seems to help if I want to do more restricted fast, as well. So I sort of use it as a reset, but with more calories.

Nancy LC Sun, Sep-13-15 12:05

This is to help me get my appetite manageable again and get some of the benefits of fasting without the awful hunger and weakness.

So far my appetite has really shrunk! I went almost to 11am without eating! Also peed a bunch yesterday, so getting rid of a lot of carb-water. I did add macadamia nuts to the fast because they're so easy to grab when you don't want to peel another avo.

MickiSue Sun, Sep-13-15 19:33

If you are going to eat carbs, why make them rice? Why not greens, or even root veggies. Rice is a grain, and there is so much data about how grains are actively bad for your health.

Nancy LC Sun, Sep-13-15 20:59

Is someone eating rice in this thread?

walkmeup Mon, Sep-14-15 02:56

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy LC
Is someone eating rice in this thread?


Not now, but I will. While wheat literally hurts my body, rice doesn't. Also it helps with the diet, and it's cheap and easy to make. Of course I will eat greens, but I won't be able to eat enough. I can switch rice with something higher in protein. But, I don't see the big deal.

I went no carbs for two years, it helped a lot, primarily with pcos, but also bec. of the cheap bad fat in the things I bought, I started to feel tired and gained bad fat (and a lot of it, like 30lbs). Other people I know were ok on the other hand. It just doesn't suit me that way.

Then after a while I tried Dukan, I lost a lot of weight but I got sick.

Then months later, I tried butter fast, it helped with my health and weight but at some point I got stuck and disgusted with butter. I started to eat fish, meat and vegetables. But until I ate some rice I didn't get well. So I know a fat oriented diet is better for me than all the others. But also vegetable fats are the only decent ones for my body in my country. And a small amount of rice helps and is ok for my body.

jschwab Mon, Sep-14-15 07:14

Quote:
Originally Posted by teaser
The original recommendation by Dr. Atkins was to break through a stall/allow weight loss for people who were so metabolically resistant that they didn't lose weight on induction.

I've found it useful if I've strayed a bit. Not usually stuff that high in carbs, but if I eat peanuts/nuts or cheese, sometimes I'll have an out of control appetite and start craving other stuff. So I'll go very heavy on cream, coconut etc., to really push the ketosis. Not necessarily that low in calorie. Anyways, next day my appetite's normal. Seems to help if I want to do more restricted fast, as well. So I sort of use it as a reset, but with more calories.



Thanks, I still haven't found my Atkins '72 book. That's a great explanation.


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