My plan was to go Atkins. I'm on Induction, under 20 carbs a day, really only a week in. Just ramping up the process (buying my own groceries, making the meals, etc.) I haven't read about low carb eating for quite a few years now.

I see the Atkins Diet has many progeny now. !

ie. Still reduce carbs but ... Fat > Protein = LCHF (Low Carb High Fat).
ie. Still reduce the carbs but do 2 "induction-like days" a week 5:2 IF diet.
ie. <insert YALCD here> (Yet Another Low Carb Diet).

I'm interested in LCHF. Dr. Fung's insulin ideas really speak to me.

What's a chubby middle aged guy to do ?

Does it matter ?

Any Atkins-type eaters try a more LCHF approach ?

I've done Atkins several times, it always worked. This go around I've been more into LCHF with intermittent fasting thrown in. It also works. I think the key is to do your homework on what the food choices are, how regimented you want to be, and pick the plan that suits your body and tastes the best.

In other words, the plan you love is the one you stick with, the one you struggle with gets dropped. So pick the plan you can see yourself enjoying! Anyway, that's how I've always viewed it.

Good luck!

When did this go round start ?
How's it going ?
Is there a LCHF forum here ?




source: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto

I started LCHF with intermittent fasting on Valentines day of this year (Feb 14) or within a day of it one way or the other. I've lost a little over 50 pounds since then. That breaks down to a little over 3 pounds per week over the roughly 16 weeks I've been doing this. It's actually better than that but I stopped for a couple of weeks because of a medical thing so lost progress there. It works really well and fast, at least if you start at over 300 pounds like I did.

I don't know of any forums here that are dedicated to LCHF but a good place to start is in the thread on Dr. Jason Fung. That's not LCHF exclusively, he advocates LCHF plus intermittent fasting. But it has lots of good info. That's here: Jason Fung and Obesity Code Thread

Another good resource is youtube, there's a guy named Butter Bob Briggs who lost 140 pounds or so on LCHF made a good series of videos on it that aren't especially technical but lay out the science in layman's terms. He also is a fasting advocate buy most oh his material is on LCHF. You can search youtube for "butter makes your pants fall off", that's the first video he did. After that he has videos that talk about the various findings of the science in specific areas, all with his easygoing way. He mostly just gives you the results, not the details. But he tells you where the work was done and by who so if you want to follow up on the work he describes, for example the pioneering work on insulin resistance by Dr. Joseph Kraft, now you know who to look up.

If you prefer a less folksy, entertaining version and instead want cold facts, then there's also a really long series of videos from the deposition of Professor Tim Noakes who was being persecuted for advocating LCHF in South Africa and he put on a several day defense of it with all the science which they filmed and put on youtube. He won his case by the way. It takes hours to watch it all but really good, like a master class in LCHF. Here's a link to a playlist of all 74 videos: Tim Noakes Trial Testimony

Good luck!

I'll add the YALCD...that would be WheatBelly, because Dr Davis has conveniently already explained How his diet is and is not Just Like Atkins. http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2016/...-atkins-better/

Two issues Dr Atkins did not address in his early books are food-quality (artificial sweeteners, soybean oil, etc.) and adding back grains in later phases. Dr Westman, whose clinical trials are based on the Atkins protocol, continues that plan. Just keep the carbs below 20g, a Ketogenic diet, until at goal. LCHF And WB remove questionable products but add others not available when Atkins wrote his first book.
I don't think it matters much, especially when you don't have much weight to lose nor health issues like diabetes. Many following "Atkins" are already LCHF. When I started Atkins, I already was eating a "clean diet" for other health reasons so maybe it was LCHF, but adding IF allowed me to moderate protein further. You could stick with a 20g carb limit for two weeks so you quickly get into fat-burning, reduce carb cravings and then adjust the minor details from there.

Amazing !
Great job.


I'm just getting the details of Dr. Fung. Love his insulin ideas.


Nice. will check it out.


Thanks.

Well said.


I'm going to try fasting.


That's where I am headed.
I'm already in ketosis, urine-wise.

Is LCHF different enough to warrant ....
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=477408

This forum is basically a low carb forum. Hey, that's why it's called "Active Low-Carber Forums." But seriously, there are variations, and I think they're all covered here. Yes, it's an older format, but I find it extremely useful now that I'm used to its organization, and I know how to find things. The best part of this forum are the people who are active here. We have a good time exchanging information with lots of knowledge shared. We are always respectful to different ideas, and that's key for me. My quest is to continue learning about nutrition and to optimize my WOE based on new research and the N=1 findings that are posted here frequently regarding personal experiences we have with our nutrition journeys. Since there is no one dietary approach that is suitable for everyone, the diverse experiences and ideas here are informative.

Rob speaks to what makes this forum so valuable. I've been using Atkins to control my weight since 1972, along with all the variations. Atkins is a good starting point because it offers the structure which is a comfort for many beginners.

Breaking plateaus is a favorite topic here, and I broke a 6-year one when I used the Fung protocol in 2015. I broke another in 2016 by omitting dairy, eggs and nuts. You'll see people referring to their n=1 (The subject size of the "experiment" is 1, meaning you.) We share our personal dietary experiments. Maybe ours will help somebody else.

Almost every variation on the LC theme here works for somebody, and every BODY is different.

So my diet = Atkins, LCHF, CAD, IF, KETO.

I think many of us following ketogenic diets spend the most time here in the "Atkins" and "Dr Bernstein" (Fung thread) forums because they are the most active. Protein Power & Neanderthin used to be more active and I check them and others out whenever there are new posts.

Hi VLC.MD
Welcome to the Forum!
I always like this thread and maybe you will too, it's a good read!
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=236482

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