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Old Sat, Mar-21-09, 17:20
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Originally Posted by Wifezilla
I can understand no dairy, but why no nuts?


Possibly allergies, Wifezilla--just guessing, though.

Eva8090 wrote:
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... There are other complete vegan proteins such as buckwheat, amaranth, quinoa, nuts/seeds, beans and algae.. I don't know how low-carb those are, though.


Well, the nuts/seeds and algae are the lower carb options on that list--but 'complete vegan proteins?' Nope.
quinoa from www.nutritiondata.com:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/...d-pasta/10352/2
When that protein scale is adjusted for digestibility,rted the score drops below 100. Same for buckwheat, amaranth, nuts and seeds.
You can look up your other choices; you'll see similar incomplete profiles.
Algae is a complete protein...but some would consider sea vegetables too 'living' for their vegan plans.

There are only three nutritionally 'complete' non-meat proteins which provide full digestibility and complete nutritional balance--i.e. proteins which contain within themselves the full and balanced complement of essential amino acids, as well as the macro nutrients in balance so that you aren't ingesting more carbs or fats than needed to get the protein.

Those three proteins are still, as they've been since I first started studying complementary proteins: eggs, soybeans, and protein isolate.
Soybeans are still the only 100% complete non-animal source of protein.

Those get a 100 (or a 1, depending on scale) for digestibility and therefore for protein completeness/usability.

OTOH, if you're allergic to soy, dairy or eggs, they're no joy for you either. But the whole issue of combining foods to get a complete protein will only work on a low carb plan if you can get enough protein from the combined things without taking you over your carb limits. A good protein isolate (whey, soy or egg) could be your best friend.

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The level of protein one needs has to be calculated using ideal body weight, not current body weight. Active people need about 1/2 their ideal body weight (pounds) in grams of protein a day. More sedentary people require substantially less.


Well--there Drs. Mike and Mary Dan Eades (Protein Power) and most exercise/PT physiologists would disagree. The amount of protein you need should be based on your lean body mass + exercise level, basically 1g per pound of LBM x the factor for the activity level. If you don't know your LBM, you're better off planning on 0.5g/lb of current body weight, multiplied by a factor starting at 0.6 for sedentary and going up by one-tenth of a point for each level of activity over sedentary. If your body is under any level of emotional stress (and whose isn't?) or physical stress (exercise, weight loss, surgery, illness) then you should increase the activity level factor by at least one level. And yes, losing weight--especially trying to lose a LOT of weight--is considered a physical stressor.

There's a pretty good calculator of minimum protein requirements for your body at Wake Forest Medical Center's website.
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