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Old Wed, Nov-21-12, 10:00
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Happy Thanksgiving- my favorite american holiday!... I will freeze the leftover stuffing in ziplock bags for DH, get rid of all the sweets by Saturday- done!...

MIW- you are doing great! Good idea to measure. I have never had acne, but I had moderate rosacia and after about 6-9 months on CALP I noticed it had gone away. It is still gone! YAY!

I am thankful for this site and all of you-
E


Enomarb: great idea about dealing with the leftovers. I love pumpkin pie and will just be cutting super thin slices and perhaps using those as my carb at other meals. It really does keep well.

We too will be doing all sorts of things with the turkey. Hubby makes a mean turkey a la king just like we used to get in elementary school but he makes the gravey from scratch

Yes, the skin issues are interesting. I read people talk about hair falling out with low carbing, but I think that is from extended ketosis or something as it seems I saw that mainly from posts by people doing paleo or strict DANDR induction. I know dogs will shed out old coats when their diet is changes, especially to more of a true protein/raw diet so I figure as long as it grows back in not to worry, LOL!

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Old Thu, Nov-22-12, 11:58
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Happy Thanksgiving Everybody!!!
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Old Fri, Nov-23-12, 11:18
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Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!

I stayed on plan and am surprised it was easy as it was. Absolutely no snacking, not even tasting things while I was cooking (hard to do if you like to cook!). Luckily all the dishes turned out seasoned just fine. One change from my last 22 days is that I didn't eat any veggies. Not even with dinner. (I basically did the original CAD instead of CALP which I mainly follow).

BF- 1 fried egg and 3 bacon
Lch- Pepperoni strip and chunck of cheese
D- turkey, small scoops of everything (stuffing, mashed potatoes, yams, "vegetarian stuffing," (quinoa, raisins, diced dried apricot, diced celery, honey and yellow curry powder and olive oil all mixed together), one each of chocolate mousse pie and pumpkin pie.

Todays weight: 226 and both my rings feel as loose as ever! I feel very good about going into this holiday season and my headstart for the New Year

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Old Fri, Nov-23-12, 15:06
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Feeling re-energized re having a "lose weight" attitude versus eating the way I feel best in my body with, and maintaining. I know the goals I want for 2013, and that they start now.

Yesterday's Thanksgiving went really well, but I still ate more than I felt comfortable with at rm, though it was my smallest Thanksgiving rm ever (good..stomach shrinking so to speak, means I feel satisfied faster with less food ).

We tried a new "high protein" stuffing, and with tinkering, it could become our fav. It uses a lot of pork and sausage, spinach, and we substituted rice for bread cubes.
The new fresh herb dip I made to have with raw veggies (I do a "snack" food cm for our lunch) was excellent, and my sausage balls continue to be a favorite for us, as a hot component to that cm.

I didn't miss the potatoes or bread or squash, and surprised but pleased about that!

The turkey - our best one ever. Love our Big Green Egg!

If I can get hubby to help me resize the image, I took a photo of our cm breakfast dish, which we love for holiday breakfasts (a nicer one than the one that is posted with my recipe, down in the recipe forum).

Enjoying having dh home today - yay for long weekends!
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Old Sun, Nov-25-12, 13:25
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Anyone doing tai chi or yoga for exercise and as a supplement to cad/calp for weight loss? I think I've found a yoga program for me (and no, I've never been a yoga person) and I'm excited!
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Old Sun, Nov-25-12, 14:50
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hi-
all my family just left- I am cleaning and doing laundry and dishes. Tired but happy.
I also made the best turkey ever- I did it on regualar bake for 4.5 hrs, then did Convect ROast for the last .5 hr- perfect. I will do it again that way.
I had lots of veggies- all gone. I threw out the last of the leftover desserts- gone. Now only the leftover dark meat turkey- in the freezer- will be chili tomorrow night.
Hope you all had a great holiday-
E
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Old Mon, Nov-26-12, 13:09
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Well I am down another pound to now being 225. I am happy since it was not only a holiday but also my weekend to work and it was stressful. I am now down 10 pounds since Nov. 1st but it seems like even more since I really notice my stomach sinking in when I lay flat on my back which is something that hasn't happened for years!

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Old Mon, Nov-26-12, 16:33
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Old Mon, Nov-26-12, 19:33
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i'm having a lot of fun with the ticker factory weight loss ticker and chart. I wish I new how to have it set where it shows my starting wt and counts down with my current weight, instead of showing pounds lost. I only notice this because the gal who has the same thing on a header of her blog it shows it that way and I can't figure out why mine says "10 lb lost. 85 lb to go." weird, LOL

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I don't have my CAD book any more. Got rid of it a long time ago.

I found this list of acceptable foods for CMs. Does this seem accurate to you?
http://carbaddicts-ivil.tripod.com/advice/foodlist.htm
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Old Wed, Nov-28-12, 15:30
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hi-
this is a good basic list. you can also look for the CHEAT SHEET on this site-
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Old Wed, Nov-28-12, 21:00
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I really like that website. I think it is old and now inactive but still has good info and great success stories

This is long, but it is one I cut and pasted from lots of info on sites and forum posts into one document that I refer to from time to time and email out to ppl when they ask me about info on my diet. Hope you like it and sorry that I didn't source it but I think I got some from enobarb's posts before and also Teri:

Carbohydrate Addict’s Diet Tips:

This diet works because it controls your insulin release, which is related to how you store and use body fat. (See the book for all the scientific references!) You are allowed only three meals and one optional snack on CAD/CALP. This is how the insulin releases are controlled. Two of the meals are called “Complementary Meals” (CM’s) and the third is called a “Reward Meal” (RM.) There is no calorie counting, no carbohydrate counting… it is a very simple diet so none of that is necessary. If you follow the rules, everything falls into place.

CM’s are essentially very low carb meals. You divide your plate in half, and ½ your meal is protein, and the other ½ is low carb vegtables. Simple. There is a specific list of veggies to choose from called “crave–reducing” choices. The list is pretty extensive, but it does not include all low carb veggies. You are allowed to eat from this list, and that is all. If it’s not on the list, you don’t eat it. (But rest assured, there’s so much to choose from you won’t feel restricted.) It’s easy and flexible, it just needs to be balanced, protein & veggie. The optional snack is the same as the CM, just smaller.

A RM is a flexible meal you can have for your choice of breakfast, lunch or dinner. This makes it easy to plan for events like restaurant meals or parties. For the RM you begin your meal with a salad, then you divide your plate into thirds. 1/3 is protein, 1/3 is low carb veggie, and that last 1/3 is ANYTHING YOU WANT. If it fits in that 1/3 balance, you can have it. Potato, bread, cake, cookies, candy, pasta, rice, whatever carbohydrate you feel like having.

This does not give you free license to pig out on carbs, your meals must be BALANCED. If you want more carbohydrates, you must also take the same portions of protein and vegetables too.

One more catch: The RM must be completed within a one hour time limit. This has everything to do with controlling the insulin release and it is very important. You are not allowed to snack (aside from the optional complementary snack.) You eat three to four times a day, and that’s it. Believe it or not, this will not be a problem. Your meals should carry you easily to the next meal. It’s all about that insulin control.

Many people have the misconception that the RM is a 1-hour pig out all you can eat junk-a-thon. IT IS NOT. People also think that if they even have one taste of sugar they will binge into oblivion. THIS IS NOT TRUE. If you are true to the diet and stick to the 1/3 portion of carbohydrates, you will be just fine. You will be pleasantly surprised that the single slice of pie is enough, and you’re okay not going back for more and more like in the old days!

Overall this is a very flexible diet that fits well into the real world.


Things that might cause cravings, weight gain, or plateaus:

1. Eating more than 4 times a day.
2. Drinking coffee with cream and/or AS more than once a day outside your RM or taking more than 15 minutes to drink that once a day coffee with cream and/or AS.
3. Eating too much cheese at CMs--more than 2 ounces.
4. Artificial sugar during the day or at CM.
5. Diet Soda during the day outside your RM.
6. LC recipes or lc products during CM.
7. Exceeding 4 carbs per CM exclusive of listed foods.
8. Too much fat at CMs.
9. Hidden carbs/sugars, fillers.
10. Using net carb theory.
11. Atkins allowed vegetables that aren't on the CM list.
12. Vegetables that aren't on the CM list.
13. Trigger foods at CM--MSG, broccoli, green/red peppers, cottage cheese, onions, AS, pork rinds.
14. Allergen/sensitive foods at CM/RM-- sugar, wheat, dairy, cheese, eggs.
15. Not enough protein. Try for at least 12 ounces.
16. Flavored waters.
17. Salad dressings with more than 2 carbs per serving.
18. Nuts, bars, shakes, mock danish, pork rinds.
19. Unbalanced, wildly unbalanced, or carb binging RMs.
20. Gum and breath mints.
21. SF Metamucil or fiber outside CM/RM.
22. Exceeding the 60 minute RM rule by even a few minutes.


Craving Reducing Foods List

ANY FOOD *NOT* LISTED SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A CARBOHYDRATE-RICH FOOD

MEATS:
all regular and lean meats, including: bacon (check the label for sugars) ham(check the label for sugars) lamb, rabbit, veal, beef, hamburger, pastrami, sausages (no added sugar)* corned beef, hot dogs (all meat), pork, venison. Most lunch meats contain added sugars and fillers and those not listed in this meat section should be saved for reward meals only.

FOWL:
light and dark varieties, with or without skin including: capon, chicken, cornish hen, duck, goose, pheasant, quail, squab, turkey (ground or whole)

FISH AND SHELLFISH:
all varieties, canned, jarred (no sugar), or cooked (no bread crumbs), including: bass, bluefish, calamari, clams, cod, crabmeat, flounder, haddock, halibut, lobster, monkfish, oysters, perch, salmon, sardines, scallops, scrod, shrimp, smelt, sole, sturgeon, swordfish, trout, tuna

DAIRY AND NON-MEAT ALTERNATIVES:
Regular or low-fat varieties of: eggs, egg substitutes, cheese (all varieties except low-fat ricotta), cream cheese, cottage cheese* milk, cream, or half-and-half (up to 2oz daily in one cup of coffee or tea or in cooking; not nondairy creamers), sour cream, tofu (soybean curd) vegetarian meat alternatives that contain 4 grams of carbohydrate or less per average serving

VEGETABLES:
fresh, stir-fried, sautéed (no breading), steamed, or boiled non-starchy vegetables alfalfa sprouts, bamboo shoots, brussels spouts, celery, green beans, kohlrabi, okra, peppers (green or red*), snap beans, tomatoes (raw, about 1/4 per meal), arugula, bean spouts, cabbage, cucumbers, greens (all), lettuce, onions (as seasoning only), radishes, sorrel (sour grass), asparagus, broccoli*, cauliflower, endive, kale, mushrooms, parsley, scallions, spinach, wax beans

OILS, FATS, AND DRESSINGS:
butter or margarine, regular mayonnaise: oils: all varieties salad dressings: all regular and low-fat varieties where sugar is not among first four ingredients.

EXTRAS:
capers (for garnish only), garlic, horseradish, ketchup 1-2 tablespoons only), mustard, onion (fresh or powdered for cooking only), seeds (poppy or sesame, for cooking only), wine* (dry varieties, for cooking only) dill pickles, herbs, juice (citrus, small amounts for cooking only), mayonnaise (regular only), olives (green or black, no pimientos), pepper or salt, spices, vinegar (white, all other varieties*)

BEVERAGES:
carbonated water, club soda (non flavored)*, coffee, seltzer (non flavored) tea

*if your particularly sensitive to carbs, you may find that these foods can cause rebound cravings or educed weight loss. If so, or you have concern, eliminate them or save for reward meals.

CAD/CALP CHEAT SHEET

1. EAT TWO MEALS OR TWO MEALS AND A SNACK COMPRISED OF THE LISTED FOODS.
2. EAT 12-16 OUNCES OF PROTEIN A DAY; MOSTLY RED MEAT, DARK MEAT POULTRY, AND FISH.
3. EXCEPT FOR THE AMOUNTS LISTED, ITEMS ARE LIMITED TO 3 GRAMS OF CARBOHYDRATE/ITEM AND A TOTAL OF 6 GRAMS/MEAL FOR CONDIMENTS/OTHER ITEMS.
4. A SNACK IS ONE-HALF THE SIZE OF A MEAL. ALWAYS CARRY AN ALLOWED SNACK SUCH AS BEEF JERKY WITH YOU WHEN OUT.
3. DO NOT EAT ANY FOOD DURING YOUR NON-CARBOHYDRATE MEALS WITH MORE THAN 3 GRAMS OF CARBOHYDRATE PER SERVING.
5. HAVE ONE BALANCED REWARD MEAL W/SALAD EATING WHATEVER YOU WANT, HOWEVER MUCH YOU WANT. EAT NO LONGER THAN 60 CONTINUOUS MINUTES. DO NOT LET MORE THAN 20 MINUTES LAPSE BETWEEN FOODS TAKEN WITHIN THE 60 MINUTE REWARD MEAL.
6. CALP GUIDE IS TO HAVE A BALANCED REWARD MEAL COMPRISED OF 1/3 PROTEIN, 1/3 VEGETABLES AND 1/3 CARBOHYDRATES (INCLUDING DESSERT AND ALCOHOL)
7. EXCEPT FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS, HAVE REWARD MEAL FOR THE SAME MEAL EACH DAY.
8. OTHER THAN DIET SOFT DRINKS, SUGAR SUBSTITUTES AND SUGAR-FREE GELATIN; DO NOT USE DIET OR LOW FAT PRODUCTS WITHOUT CHECKING CARBOHYDRATES.
9. LIMIT DIET SOFT DRINKS TO 2 AND ADDITIONAL SUGAR SUBSTITUTES TO 2 PER DAY. AVOID MSG.
10. DRINK 8-10 12 OUNCE GLASSES OF WATER A DAY.
11. USE UP TO 2 OUNCES MILK, HEAVY LIGHT OR COFFEE CREAM IN YOUR COFFEE ONCE A DAY AND DRINK IT WITHIN 15 MINUTES, OTHERWISE HAVE IT BLACK. DO NOT USE NON-DAIRY POWDER.
12. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. FOOD ALLERGIES/SENSITIVITIES CAN ALSO CAUSE CRAVINGS, GAS, BLOATED/UPSET STOMACHES, AND HEADACHES. IF ANY OF THESE SYMPTOMS RESULT FROM THE REWARD MEAL, INVESTIGATE/FIND THE CULPRIT FOOD AND MINIMIZE/AVOID IT IN YOUR DIET.
13. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY II. SOME CARBOHYDRATE ADDICTS CAN REACT TO THESE FOODS WITH INCREASED APPETITE/CRAVINGS ALSO—ARTIFICIAL SUGARS, SUGAR ALCOHOLS, DIET SODAS, CAFFEINE, COTTAGE CHEESE, YOGURT, BROCCOLI, RED PEPPER AND OTHER HIGHER CARB VEGGIES. IF ANY OF THESE AFFECT YOU, ONLY HAVE THEM WITH YOUR REWARD MEAL.

PROTEIN (4-6 oz. Cooked, 6-8 oz. Raw/meal)
Any tofu, meat, game, poultry, containing 3 grams of carbohydrate or less per serving.
Any fish or shellfish without added fillers or sugars. Do not eat imitation lobster, crab or fish.
Any cheese containing 3 grams of carbohydrate or less per serving.
Eggs or egg substitutes containing 3 grams of carbohydrate or less per serving.
Watch out for prepared egg, meat or fish salads, they often put breadcrumbs in them to extend them.


FATS, OILS AND DRESSINGS
Heavy cream, sour cream, cream cheese, fats, oils or dressings containing 3 grams of carbohydrate or less per serving.

VEGETABLES (2 cups raw or 1 cup cooked or mixture/meal; do not count lettuces)
Alfalfa sprouts
Artichoke Hearts
Arugula
Asparagus
Bamboo shoots
Beans (green or wax)
Bean Sprouts
Cabbage, all kinds
Capers
Cauliflower
Celery
Chicory
Collard Greens
Cucumbers
Dill Pickles
Eggplant
Endive
Fennel
Kale
Kohlrabi
Lettuce, all kinds
Mushrooms
Mustard Greens
Okra
Onions (2 tbsp)
Parsley
Peppers
Pimientos
Radishes
Sauerkraut
Scallions
Sorrel
Spinach
Squash (summer only)
Swiss Chard
Tomatoes (raw, ¼ only)
Turnip Greens
Watercress
Zucchini

CONDIMENTS/OTHER

All herbs
Bouillon
Consommé
Catsup (2 tbsp)
Garlic

Garlic/onion powder
Horseradish
Hot sauce
Lime/lemon juice (2 tbsp)

Mustard
Olives
Pepper
Pork Rinds
Salt

Soy flour
Soy sauce
Tofu flour
Whey Protein
Vinegar
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Old Thu, Nov-29-12, 17:54
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very helpful-
THANKS!
You should post this in your journal- good first page!

I must be tired of turkey- had salmon today and yesterday. Last night had salmon cakes, eggplant, salad, small serving of butter almond ice cream, water. Tonight had salad, green beans, cabbge, salmon fillet, pecans, water.

Tomorrow I'm making fake chicken parm- chicken breast baked in red sauce and mozz cheese. I'll add pasta for Dh, a salad and probably eggplant too.Carb will be a shared pomegranite.

Feel great- love this fall weather. Have 3 turkey breasts and 3 legs of lamb in the freezer- got all of them for about 70% off after Thanksgiving.
Now I just have to cook them!
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I am wondering if anyone can share more info on the "coffee" rule for CAD. I remember it being that you have to drink it within 15 minutes. Is that within one of the meals throughout the day or as a snack, or in additional to the meals and snack. If so, how long should one wait after eating or before the next meal. Also does anyone notice if drinking coffee is stalling their weight loss? I only ask because the last few days I started drinking coffee (decaf with less than 2 ounces of real cream) the last 3 days and my weight went up 3 pounds over those days then back down again to 225. I thought maybe it was making me go back up as that was the only thing that I changed or added diet-wise. I am glad my weight came back down and Monday I am hoping to be less than the 225 for a one week drop. Also, I noticed yesterday I got real tired about 2 hours later and really needed a nap. Not sure if it is spiking my insulin levels or not and am curious about anyone else doing CAD/CALP having issues maybe due to coffee. I re-read the section in the CALP book and that one actually seems to encourage cutting out caffeine and coffee since it can increase cortisone levels like 500 times normal and they said studies so far have been inconclusive as to caffeine's role with insulin release so therfore it seems like the Heller's now aren't in favor of it. Thanks!

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