Mon, Aug-11-14, 17:20
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Senior Member
Posts: 6,140
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Plan: Mostly Fung/IDM
Stats: 165/138.4/135
BF:???/better/???
Progress: 89%
Location: Washington state
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inflammabl
Um, no. I have to disagree. That's not what we have been told half a thousand times on this site citing one blogger's n=1 "experiment." We've been told that getting blood ketones up to 0.8 will at least be a symptom if not a cause of fat burning weight loss. We are supposed to reduce our carbs and reduce our protein intake and even buy a gizmo with $5 a shot cards and magic will happen. Again, it's been stated many, many, many times as the truth.
Here we have data from a very credible source with just as many trials, 1, as was used to create that 0.8 false certainty.
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JM addresses some of your questions in Chapter 12 - Keto Qs and As. Among the questions: "I'm showing great ketone levels, but I'm not losing weight. Why?"
He quotes Dr Bill Lagoskos: "The level of ketones in circulation does not accurately reflect the degree or speed of weight loss. The mere presence of ketosis and an energy deficit but not the depth of ketosis, per se seem to be the primary mediator of weight loss."
Also in the same chapter, Dr Westman says: "The ketogenic diet is a not a weight-loss diet - it's a fat-burning diet. If you have excess fat stores, the body will use them up. If you don't have excess fat stores, your body will use the fat you eat for fuel, and it will let you know when you need to eat more fat by making you hungry."
I didn't see this in JM's book, but Gary Taubes certainly speaks to the idea that we are not all designed to have the same BMI or % of fat, particularly the currently popular 17-25 BMI or 10-20% body fat.
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