Here is a series of videos talking against low-carb diets and low-carb proponents such as Taubes and the Diet Doctor.

Nutrition Past and Future
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...pboyh2oYyAFZDBA

I came across it as part of my LC research - I wanted to see what "the other side" says. I was wondering if others saw this if anyone put together a rebuttal/response.

The author/speaker is very condescending and the little verbal jabs against LC supporters imply that the target audience is other vegans rather than trying to get LC people to change.

I've only watched part of them so far and he ends up doing everything he accuses low-carbers of doing - cherry picking studies, reading too much into scientific papers, deception/lying, etc. He also relies heavy on epidemiological studies

Curious what y’all think.

Who is Plant Positive? The related blog has no About Me or any list of credentials..anyone who won't identify themselves is not worthy of attention. But certainly has been busy attacking everyone even remotely related to eating meat, from Denise Minger to Dr Sinatra.
Some people can do well as a vegetarian, I am not one of them. I gained sixty pounds quickly as a vegetarian, which caused a host of health problems. Then I lost the weight and now have perfect health by eating a low carb, moderate animal protein diet. It is the only study of importance to me.

I did NOT gain the weight in my near-vegetarian days. In fact, I was VERY thin. I AVERAGED 115 lbs, with a three-to-five pound swing. What I did have was wicked awful "sugar swings". And NOT with sugar. I ate nearly NO sugar. I got the wicked awful sugar swings from healthy, whole grain bread on my sandwiches, etc.

Now, when I say "wicked awful"... I mean narcolepsy-inducing, cannot keep my eyes open during the noontime seminar, handwriting goes to hell, from neat to indecipherable chicken scratching. I still have the notes to prove it.

I NEVER want to be like that again. Ever. I'd rather remain at 24% body fat BMI for the rest of my life than 18.

I can confirm that. Same story being on rice diet. Very unpleasant.

I too gained sixty pounds as a vegetarian, which caused a host of health problems. One of them was a wheezy voice like Plant Positive, caused by allergy-induced asthma that went away when I gave up grains.

I could only watch half of the first anti-Taubes rant. If Taubes were too clueless and ridiculous to be taken seriously, he would be quickly forgotten, so why the need for dozens of long-winded rants against him??? PP (or Pee Pee, as Anthony Colpo calls him) berates people for their lack of credentials, but what is he? - an anonymous blogger with lots of free time on his hands, so presumably he has even fewer credentials than those he attacks, or he wouldn't be anonymous.

One of the comments after the first video called him "Doughy" Taubes, although in the video Gary looked great and Ornish was the puffy and doughy-looking one who had a hard time articulating what he was trying to say (grain-induced brain fog?).

Plant Positive is on Facebook and appears to be a buzz-cut male of indeterminate race who lives in Washington DC. Single, of course.

I didn't watch them and i'm not going to. You can't reason with people like this because they refuse to believe anything different than their own belief system. It's just propaganda. The best way to deal with this type is to ignore them.

I watched evidence posted by Plant Positive in this channel... well you can find 'studies on fat' he offered in my thread: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=449798
The first three studies I explained are the same he listed. Have to say he looks for studies which seem to indicate that increase of fat/protein are somehow linked to disease and posts this as "hard proof" that fat/meats are evil. He seems rarely reading studies he posts.

Fantastic series. I've seen nearly all of them. The author uses evidence based studies and cites every single fact he mentions to debunk LC. He also notes the citation in each study so you can look it up if you need to.

His takedowns of Taubes and Cordain were particularly good.

"I can brush my teeth - I can't brush my arteries." LMAO.

Everyone is entitled to their point of view - I'm just surprised that someone who agrees with plant positive on low carb, is hanging out in a low carb support group.


Lee

I'm not. An evangelist hangs out where the people are who need to be saved.

Ah, I see, thinking they're saving the world one animal at a time.

Lee

I am glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I've seen this phenomena on other forums where low carbers or paleo dieters hang out and the perpetrators are typically one of two varieties: trolls like durianrider or stealth evangelists like femur trying to save people from themselves. I love this diet and it has brought so many positive changes in my life but I don't feel the need to go stalk vegan forums trying to convince them their B12 deficiencies are eventually going to bite them in the butt. IMO it takes a special kind of d-bag to make a habit of doing that kind of thing.

Eating more calories than you burn causes weight gain, no matter which diet you use.

If you were eating the lowest calorie density foods, like fruits, veggies, and whole grains, all with a calorie density of 600 calories per pound or less, you would have a hard time keeping weight on, let alone gaining weight. I suspect you ate lots of oils and fat (vegetarian does not necessarily equal strict plant based or low fat). Fat is about 4,000 calories per pound. So it would be easy to gain if you eat it.

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You refer to the long held "energy in - energy out" belief, which goes along the "a calorie is a calorie" and "eat less exercise more".

fruits and grains are low calorie now too?