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Old Sun, Aug-24-08, 07:32
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Ralph,

Fats can be a huge problem IF you eat them with a lot of carbs.

That is why there are so many studies that link fat to heart disease, because they were performed in people eating high carb diets.

The worst problem with low carb diets is that people do them for a few months or years, get into the habit of eating a lot of fat, then carb creep occurs and their carb intake goes up and they are STILL eating a lot of fat. Blue cheese dressing and 50 grams per meal is NOT good for you.

For every gram of carb you add to your diet, you need to cut out a gram of fat. When I get up to around 100 g of carb a day, which I can eat with Apidra and still get very nice blood sugars, I cut my fat intake way down.

It is also worth noting that there are some people with intact carb metabolisms who do very well on the low fat diet. We aren't them. But they do exist.


That is why I worry about my husband. He is eating what I eat for dinner and snacks but, he eats carbs at breakfast and lunch. I keep telling him he can't munch on cheese and other fatty items if he is eating the carbs.

The last few sentences offered me a glimmer of hope. Then it was crushed - LOL.

~Danielle
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Old Sun, Aug-24-08, 08:41
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Danielle, maybe your hubs would like South Beach, a moderate carb, moderate fat plan developed by a cardiologist?

I'm hedging my bets by eating South Beach. I don't have any heart disease and I don't want any. I know I'm not going to eat VLC for life so I've decided to go the "healthy fats" route.
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Old Sun, Aug-24-08, 08:42
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Originally Posted by Lottadata
Ralph,

Fats can be a huge problem IF you eat them with a lot of carbs.

That is why there are so many studies that link fat to heart disease, because they were performed in people eating high carb diets.

The worst problem with low carb diets is that people do them for a few months or years, get into the habit of eating a lot of fat, then carb creep occurs and their carb intake goes up and they are STILL eating a lot of fat. Blue cheese dressing and 50 grams per meal is NOT good for you.

For every gram of carb you add to your diet, you need to cut out a gram of fat. When I get up to around 100 g of carb a day, which I can eat with Apidra and still get very nice blood sugars, I cut my fat intake way down.

It is also worth noting that there are some people with intact carb metabolisms who do very well on the low fat diet. We aren't them. But they do exist.


Great info, Jenny!
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Old Mon, Aug-25-08, 05:03
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Ralph -

I tried niacin. My Mother's doctor also put her on niacin and we both got that niacin flush. Man that was hot! I'm not a wimp when it come to pain either. Did you have that problem too?

~Danielle


Two baby aspirin with the two 500mg niacins pills and most of the time I am fine.

I have had about 2 or 3 hot flushes, but they pass in about 10 minutes.

As you continue with niacin, the hot flush subsides and doesn't occur.

I haven't had a flush now in months.

Ralph
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Old Mon, Aug-25-08, 05:09
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I agree Jenny.

The hi fat is in the context of low carb.

When I am dieting real well I can easily keep my carb count between 30-60.

Lower can be done and I have done it when I am focusing on dropping weight.

And fat goes up since my selection is toward more protein choices and less carb choices. The net result is typically about 50% fat, 20-25% carbs and 20-25% protein.

All of this being contained within about 1500-1700 calories per day.

Ralph
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