Tue, Jun-06-17, 04:44
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Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154
BF:
Progress: 104%
Location: Ontario
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I think there's room for all sorts of approaches. I target a diet with a pretty strict ketogenic ratio, I could probably increase my protein intake if I cut my carbs to zero. But eating the proportion of fat that I aim at becomes a bit harder without large amounts of heavy cream.
Dr. Atkins had the concept of an "effectively zero carbohydrate diet," and I think that's an idea that deserves testing, one old study on people fasting showed feeding people eight grams or so of glucose didn't actually increase glucose metabolism so much as shift it--blood ketones remained high, and gluconeogenesis from protein decreased by about the amount of glucose that the people were taking in--I don't think this shows that somebody taking in ten grams per day of carbohydrate from leafy greens is eating a diet as effectively low in carbohydrate as somebody who is eating no carbohydrate, but it does illustrate that we really don't know the answer to that question--if I eat zero carbohydrate, or ten grams of carbohydrate, will I end up with more glucose in the system, or will I just synthesize a little less glucose? Since I don't know the answer to that question, it comes down to n=1 experimentation--but I think the null hypothesis for me at least is that unless there's an obvious benefit shown in that n=1, I'm probably better off getting some of those nutrients and the increased palatability of the diet that comes with those veggies.
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