Active Low-Carber Forums
Atkins diet and low carb discussion provided free for information only, not as medical advice.
Home Plans Tips Recipes Tools Stories Studies Products
Active Low-Carber Forums
A sugar-free zone


Welcome to the Active Low-Carber Forums.
Support for Atkins diet, Protein Power, Neanderthin (Paleo Diet), CAD/CALP, Dr. Bernstein Diabetes Solution and any other healthy low-carb diet or plan, all are welcome in our lowcarb community. Forget starvation and fad diets -- join the healthy eating crowd! You may register by clicking here, it's free!

Go Back   Active Low-Carber Forums > Main Low-Carb Diets Forums & Support > Low Carb Health & Technical Forums > Dr.Bernstein & Diabetes
User Name
Password
FAQ Members Calendar Search Gallery My P.L.A.N. Survey


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   ^
Old Fri, Feb-10-12, 18:06
ICDogg's Avatar
ICDogg ICDogg is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 1,563
 
Plan: Low carb, high fat keto
Stats: 310/212/183 Male 6'0"
BF:D
Progress: 77%
Location: Philadelphia area
Default Home a1c testing

Does anyone here use these? I know Walmart has a kit for $8.99 that you collect a sample and send to a lab and have a link to results emailed back to you. And for about $28 or so, you can get a 2 test kit from Bayer which includes the meter and you can get results in 5 minutes.

I wouldn't mind knowing what it is now, a few weeks before I take the 'real' test.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2   ^
Old Sat, Feb-11-12, 12:06
RobLL RobLL is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 1,648
 
Plan: generalized low carb
Stats: 205/180/185 Male 67
BF:31%/14?%/12%
Progress: 125%
Location: Pacific Northwest
Default

I had one at a clinic and it read 4.1, quite a wonder and fun to brag about. But I didn't/don't believe it. My true A1Cs were about 4.8. The home tests at least a few years ago were quite inaccurate.
Reply With Quote
  #3   ^
Old Sat, Feb-11-12, 19:27
scottie123 scottie123 is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 126
 
Plan: Atkins
Stats: 265/231/175 Male 72 inches
BF:265/231/175
Progress: 38%
Default

Did some reading, (webmd, etc) and found that the home meters are all reasonably accurate. The +/- 1% error is not that much.

The theory behind the A1c test is that the glucose associated with red blood cells(RBC). RBC circulate for 3 months, so measuring them is an average glucose for, say 1.5 months. The measurement has less fluctuation than a typical non-fasting blood glucose test.

That said, it is extremely expensive to get a very accurate meter. The home systems are cheap and accessible and by definition, slightly inaccurate. The FDA has to approve the systems -- that they are producing a reasonably accurate result. No matter what your opinion of the FDA, these standards are really quite good. Remember the same can be said for the blood glucose meter. They are slightly inaccurate -- with some variance even in repeated tests. This has to due with some variance in the testing materials, etc.

The good reading is 4-5.9% for healthy people, 8+ % for diabetics. You want to below 6.5-7% to be considered OK.



Getting a 4.1 or 4.8 really does not matter. Both are quite healthy. If you want to spend time going to the lab, waiting, get the draw, wait two weeks for results; yes, the results will be more accurate.
Reply With Quote
  #4   ^
Old Sat, Feb-11-12, 20:49
ICDogg's Avatar
ICDogg ICDogg is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 1,563
 
Plan: Low carb, high fat keto
Stats: 310/212/183 Male 6'0"
BF:D
Progress: 77%
Location: Philadelphia area
Default

I will be going to the lab in the beginning of March, preceding my doctor appointment. But I am aching to know what it is before then. I also think that the readings I'm getting lately on my bg meter might be too good to be true.

The bg numbers on my home meters have always been substantially lower than the bg number the lab reports. I know that part of this is the difference between whole blood from my thumb measured immediately vs. plasma from blood taken from my vein and not immediately processed.

Still, I'm not sure that accounts for all of the difference. I have a "conspiracy theory" that the bg meters are deliberately set to be lower than what is truly accurate. This is a CYA move - if the meter reads 65, and it is really 50, that could be a major risk for someone using the meter. However, if it reads 65, and it is really 80, that is much less of a problem.

(I have not much to base this idea on, other than all three of my meters, on control solution tests, show a value lower than the midpoint of the control range).
Reply With Quote
  #5   ^
Old Sun, Feb-12-12, 01:20
gonwtwindo's Avatar
gonwtwindo gonwtwindo is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 6,671
 
Plan: General Low Carb
Stats: 164/162.6/151 Female 5'3"
BF:Sure is
Progress: 11%
Location: SoCal
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ICDogg
Does anyone here use these? I know Walmart has a kit for $8.99 that you collect a sample and send to a lab and have a link to results emailed back to you. And for about $28 or so, you can get a 2 test kit from Bayer which includes the meter and you can get results in 5 minutes.


Thanks for posting this! I had no idea these things existed.
Reply With Quote
  #6   ^
Old Sun, Feb-12-12, 10:00
RobLL RobLL is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 1,648
 
Plan: generalized low carb
Stats: 205/180/185 Male 67
BF:31%/14?%/12%
Progress: 125%
Location: Pacific Northwest
Default

Actually the main reason I get an A1C test (aside that the doc wants it) is to confirm the accuracy of my meter. At 100 three month average I am 5.1, at 90 I am 4.8. This has been consistent over the years, so serves the side function of confirming meter accuracy.
Reply With Quote
  #7   ^
Old Sun, Feb-12-12, 11:35
gonwtwindo's Avatar
gonwtwindo gonwtwindo is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 6,671
 
Plan: General Low Carb
Stats: 164/162.6/151 Female 5'3"
BF:Sure is
Progress: 11%
Location: SoCal
Default

Gee I think I know it all about diabetes and haven't given any thought really, to the numerical correlation. I just aim for under 5.5, which I've been at for 20 years (well, 2 5.7's)
Reply With Quote
  #8   ^
Old Sun, Feb-12-12, 16:15
ICDogg's Avatar
ICDogg ICDogg is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 1,563
 
Plan: Low carb, high fat keto
Stats: 310/212/183 Male 6'0"
BF:D
Progress: 77%
Location: Philadelphia area
Default

I don't think I've measured below 7 since the 90's, with some much higher than that. But I'm pretty sure I'll be there next time I have it done.
Reply With Quote
  #9   ^
Old Wed, Mar-28-12, 21:11
ICDogg's Avatar
ICDogg ICDogg is offline
Senior Member
Posts: 1,563
 
Plan: Low carb, high fat keto
Stats: 310/212/183 Male 6'0"
BF:D
Progress: 77%
Location: Philadelphia area
Default

I bought one of these kits from Walmart. I'll probably do the test within the next few days.
Reply With Quote
  #10   ^
Old Wed, Mar-28-12, 22:05
Nancy LC's Avatar
Nancy LC Nancy LC is offline
Experimenter
Posts: 25,866
 
Plan: DDF
Stats: 202/185.4/179 Female 67
BF:
Progress: 72%
Location: San Diego, CA
Default

I did the Walmart one and it read the same as the blood test one I'd had before.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:47.


Copyright © 2000-2024 Active Low-Carber Forums @ forum.lowcarber.org
Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.