Mon, Jul-09-18, 09:05
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Senior Member
Posts: 15,075
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Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154
BF:
Progress: 104%
Location: Ontario
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ketosis doesn't matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4_HLyxQly8
Actually a keto-"friendly" video, I think the guy's a neurosurgeon, somewhere in that field anyways. Uses a modified ketogenic diet with patients. About 22 minutes in, there's discussion about it being a myth that a keto diet needs to put you into ketosis to be effective. I think that's a good point, but at the same time--yeesh. So why call it keto? If you don't think it's important, why give it the headline?
At any rate, ketosis not being important is just a contention--certainly non-ketogenic diets can be therapeutic, but anecdotally and clinically there are a lot of people out there who for instance only get seizure relief when their diet is a higher fat ratio ketogenic diet and their ketones are high. That still doesn't mean that the ketones are responsible for the therapeutic effect, I do better when I increase the fat ratio of my diet to a certain point, better mood, better energy, better workouts. But I haven't isolated ketosis as a cause, any of the things I do to increase ketosis might have some other effect.
I think there's a place for a looser approach--even if it were less effective, greater adherence might make for more benefits in a given population. I'm not up for making the toolbox smaller and turning people like me who need a slightly different approach away.
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