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Old Tue, Jul-21-09, 06:15
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Plan: Dr. Bernstein (modified )
Stats: 298/205/199 Male 5 foot 11 inches
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Progress: 94%
Location: Smithtown, NY
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Ralph
I have had good luck with Berberine-4 or 5 teapills about 30 minutes after each meal lowers BG quite a bit.
Eddie


Thanks Eddie. I think I will add this to my bitter melon regimen, which appears to help bring the BG down during the day.
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Old Tue, Jul-21-09, 06:17
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Plan: Dr. Bernstein (modified )
Stats: 298/205/199 Male 5 foot 11 inches
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Progress: 94%
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I do the same thing as Eddie. This is my second go around with the herb and this time it's not workng quite as well. I have seen some lower readings since starting it two weeks ago but my FBG still won't get below 100. Last time I took my FBG was two days ago and it was 102. I waited two hours after I got up in the morning and took it again at 8:00 AM and it was 95. That is somewhat of an improvement than when I was not taking it but it is not as good as when I was taking it in the winter.


Hi, my FBG are in the 115-130 area again. I am not worried since they do come down as soon as I have something to eat.

I am not exceeding 140 and if I do it is a rare event and my BG goes back down within a couple of hours especially with the bitter melon.

So I am off of meds and now willing to work with two herbs.

Hey Cajunboy where are you? !!!



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Old Tue, Jul-21-09, 07:43
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Plan: south beach
Stats: 225/170/165 Male 70 inches
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Progress: 92%
Location: Houston,Texas
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I originally bought huang lian su from www.shopsuigetsu.com-12 pills per container.It worked well.They switched off to another
vendor.Pills came something like 100 per bottle.These pills didn't
work nearly as well as originals.I now buy huang lian su from
www.cheungstrading.com-same product and good results that I initially got from shopsuigetsu.
Eddie
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Old Tue, Jul-21-09, 07:46
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Plan: south beach
Stats: 225/170/165 Male 70 inches
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Progress: 92%
Location: Houston,Texas
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I should have mentioned that huang lian su worked well on
my postprandial BG but never helped FBG.Bitter melon helped FBG.
Metformin helped FBG.I would think Lantus would be great for
FBG.
Eddie
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Old Wed, Jul-22-09, 04:19
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Plan: As low as possible
Stats: 116/116/112 Female 64
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Progress: 0%
Location: Houston
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I originally bought huang lian su from www.shopsuigetsu.com-12 pills per container.It worked well.They switched off to another
vendor.Pills came something like 100 per bottle.These pills didn't
work nearly as well as originals.I now buy huang lian su from
www.cheungstrading.com-same product and good results that I initially got from shopsuigetsu.
Eddie


I do remember the pills being different last time I used them. I will try the other vender. The HLS worked pretty good for my Fbg last time I used them. Even better than bitter melon.
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Old Wed, Jul-22-09, 11:20
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Plan: As low as possible
Stats: 116/116/112 Female 64
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Progress: 0%
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by eddiemcm
I originally bought huang lian su from www.shopsuigetsu.com-12 pills per container.It worked well.They switched off to another
vendor.Pills came something like 100 per bottle.These pills didn't
work nearly as well as originals.I now buy huang lian su from
www.cheungstrading.com-same product and good results that I initially got from shopsuigetsu.
Eddie


Forgot to ask you this: I see that the company is in Canada. Was the american price the same as Canadian? Also wasn't shipping quite a bit and how long did it take you to get the pills?
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Old Wed, Jul-22-09, 11:22
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Plan: As low as possible
Stats: 116/116/112 Female 64
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Progress: 0%
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by eddiemcm
I should have mentioned that huang lian su worked well on
my postprandial BG but never helped FBG.Bitter melon helped FBG.
Metformin helped FBG.I would think Lantus would be great for
FBG.
Eddie


Sorry for another post. Isn't lantus insulin or like insulin and doesn't it have to taken through shots???? I'm not sure I could do that yet. My numbers aren't high enough for me to resort to that. My FBG is between 100-115 and my pp's never get above 120.....unless I eat a really crappy diet.
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Old Wed, Jul-22-09, 12:36
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Plan: south beach
Stats: 225/170/165 Male 70 inches
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Progress: 92%
Location: Houston,Texas
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Becky
I am converting to an insulin regimen for a couple of months to
give my pancreas a rest.I may revert back to my original regimen
after my evaluation period.The shots don't bother me-I take 4
a day.
About your previous post questions:
1.Canadian dollar and USA dollar currency exchange rate
are $.90 and $.90 today-no diff
2.I Don't remember shipping charges.It only took about a week
for items to arrive
Stay cool
Eddie
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Old Thu, Jul-23-09, 03:50
soapluvr soapluvr is offline
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Plan: As low as possible
Stats: 116/116/112 Female 64
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Location: Houston
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Becky
I am converting to an insulin regimen for a couple of months to
give my pancreas a rest.I may revert back to my original regimen
after my evaluation period.The shots don't bother me-I take 4
a day.
About your previous post questions:
1.Canadian dollar and USA dollar currency exchange rate
are $.90 and $.90 today-no diff
2.I Don't remember shipping charges.It only took about a week
for items to arrive
Stay cool
Eddie


Did you have to get the insulin through a doctor? I'm assuming you did.
I will order the berberine from the canadian company this week. And as far as staying cool..........our AC went out on tuesday evening. Got a new one in and working last night. I can't remember the last time I was that happy. It got up to 94 degrees in our house yesterday.
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Old Thu, Jul-23-09, 08:37
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Plan: south beach
Stats: 225/170/165 Male 70 inches
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Progress: 92%
Location: Houston,Texas
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Becky
Lantus is available without prescription at a much better price
in Canada.I used www.northwestpharmacy.com.
Actually,Walmart carrys 3 brands of Relion/Novolin insulins that do not require prescriptions.NPH insulin(about 24 bucks for a 1000 unit vial) works almost as well as Lantus for getting rid of the dawn effect.Anyone considering using insulin should read
a book about insulin.There are several on Amazon.
Please note that insulin might not be necessary for you at
this time or possibly any time.Insulin use will sometimes cause
weight gain.
Eddie
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Old Thu, Jul-23-09, 15:00
soapluvr soapluvr is offline
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Plan: As low as possible
Stats: 116/116/112 Female 64
BF:
Progress: 0%
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by eddiemcm
Becky
Lantus is available without prescription at a much better price
in Canada.I used www.northwestpharmacy.com.
Actually,Walmart carrys 3 brands of Relion/Novolin insulins that do not require prescriptions.NPH insulin(about 24 bucks for a 1000 unit vial) works almost as well as Lantus for getting rid of the dawn effect.Anyone considering using insulin should read
a book about insulin.There are several on Amazon.
Please note that insulin might not be necessary for you at
this time or possibly any time.Insulin use will sometimes cause
weight gain.
Eddie


I have noticed from posts on this board that insulin does cause weight gain or it inhibits one from losing if they need to. I am not going the way of insulin yet but it's something to keep in the back of my mine.
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Old Thu, Jul-23-09, 20:23
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Plan: south beach
Stats: 225/170/165 Male 70 inches
BF:
Progress: 92%
Location: Houston,Texas
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Becky
I am watching out for weight gain-none so far.
Further study indicates Levemir long acting insulin leads to
minimum weight gain compared to Lantus.
Cheers
Eddie
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Old Sat, Aug-08-09, 21:58
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Plan: raw food / paleo
Stats: 233/172/130 Female 5'1"
BF:
Progress: 59%
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Ralph,

I recognize "correct frame of mind" as your most important weapon, and this is a war, really! Good luck in your daily battles and remember, you don't have to win ever battle to win the war!!!

That berberine will amaze you in the lowering effects of cholestero and BG. Monitor often when you start. I suspect you'll be cutting back very quickly on the insulin.

Keep up the good work on your diet and exercise habits. A new habit practiced daily becomes reinforced after a few weeks of routine to become a new lifestyle and just an everyday thing....

I am excited for you!!!

Ron

Ron, where can I get the BH in Canada? I had to stop taking Metformin due to the unrelenting, incapacitating diarrhea. Just would not quit. I am doing really well on a mostly raw diet - I've lost 52 pounds since diagnosis in June 2007. It's really, really hard to lose, I find. Maybe the BH will speed things up a bit?

April
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Old Mon, Aug-10-09, 05:34
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Plan: Eat Fat, Get Thin
Stats: 212/162/155 Male 68 "
BF:32/23.5/23.5
Progress: 88%
Location: Breaux Bridge, La
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well, I have no idea where you would find it, if you mean Berberine Hydrochloride......... I know it is available on the internet. Check the Berberine hcl thread and I posted references there and I think a few others also posted different websites where they could buy it online. I still have my supply from China.
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Old Mon, Aug-10-09, 08:59
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Plan: south beach
Stats: 225/170/165 Male 70 inches
BF:
Progress: 92%
Location: Houston,Texas
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About BH:
Just google "huang lian su".You probably want the package of
12 vials(of 12 pills per vial).
Eddie
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