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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 10:33
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Hi Folks

Now that bread has been banished from the diet (not forever I hope!), what can you put things like pate on?

I quite fancy a bit of pate at the weekend with a glass of red wine (will have to become accustomed to that, usually drink white).
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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 11:28
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Hi Whiskey
Why have you switched from white to red wine??? Is there a difference...I usually drink red but I wouldn't refuse white..
No ideas on the bread
kitty
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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 12:44
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Hi Kittyford

There are no carbs in red but 4.4 in rose, 1 in dry white, 6 in medium white and 10 in sweet or sparkling white
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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 14:51
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hi Whiskey
Are you sure...going by the back of atkins book..he says white wine is 0.9g per 115mls and red wine 2.0g per 115mls..
I had just assumed all wine was 4.0g per glass???
kitty
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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 14:55
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Red wine has more carbs than white. Truly.

According to the USDA Database, standard red wine has 1.7 carbs per 100g, and white only .8 carbs per 100g.

Emily
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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 14:58
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Ok
I usually drink red but whats the actual grams of carb in an average glass. Is it 4 g??
thanks
kitty
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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 15:05
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The figures I used were from the Collins Gem Carb Counter for a 175ml glass.
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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 16:12
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Will have to look into it and get back to you..
Whats the carb content of whiskey..is it zero like volka?? Do we sound like alcoholics??
kitty
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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 16:18
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Believe it or not I live in whisky land and don't even like the stuff!!!! And yes it is 0 carbs, we could always drink ourselves to thin!!

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Old Thu, Feb-05-04, 16:41
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Hi Folks

Now that bread has been banished from the diet (not forever I hope!), what can you put things like pate on?

I quite fancy a bit of pate at the weekend with a glass of red wine (will have to become accustomed to that, usually drink white).


Personally I normally just eat my pate either straight off a spoon, or off a letuce leaf of some sort.

I did buy some crackerbread a while ago which was about 3g or 4g per cracker, but only had it once...... I didn't really think it was up to much, plus it's a case of only being allowed one or two sort of thing.
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Old Fri, Feb-06-04, 02:26
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Believe it or not I live in whisky land and don't even like the stuff!!!! And yes it is 0 carbs, we could always drink ourselves to thin!!


Wouldn't it be nice!!! I know this was said tongue in cheek, but before anyone takes this seriously please remember that whilst spirits do not contain carbs they do contain a lot of alcohol. Calories from alcohol are energy calories and the body uses these first in preference to other energy sources. Hence having too much alcohol will stop the need of using your bodies fat reserves.

Whilst it is fine to have the ocassional drink, many find that regular drinking will stall their weight loss.
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Old Fri, Feb-06-04, 09:55
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Hi LittleAnne

Sorry about that I really was only joking, would it be ok to have one glass of wine at the weekend with a meal?

Lorraine
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Old Fri, Feb-06-04, 12:12
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The issue of alcohol and weight-loss is complex, there doesn't seem to be a simple calculation to deduce how it affects the system. The problem is that alcohol is metabolised directly by the liver as a preferred source of energy using a completely different chemical process to that for digesting carbohydrate. The normal view is that this "pauses" your low-carb diet, meaning that carbs you eat on the same day are more likely to cause weight gain. The advantage of alcohol rather than excess carbs is that it doesn't seem to boot you out of ketosis, meaning that you can get directly back to losing weight the next day. I tend to drink spirits with low-carb mixers but only once a week and even this certainly seems to slow the weight loss compared to the several months I was dry.
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Old Fri, Feb-06-04, 15:04
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Thanks Nigel

Thats a great answer as well as some personal experience.

So Whisky the answer is yes, have a drink over the weekend, after all you have to live with this way of life and have to enjoy it to stay on it. However, you now know the pros and cons of drinking and so can make your choice from a knowledgeable position.

No need to say sorry, but I thought I needed to clarify things as I could see how some might read it.
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Old Fri, Feb-06-04, 16:02
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Since I've just started I think I'll avoid it for the moment since it doesn't seem worth the loss, I'll save it for when I'm further down the line or special occasions.

Thanks for all the useful info.

On a different tack I'm getting a bit of grief from someone at work who doesn't agree with this way of eating but as long as I see and feel the benifits I'm going to stick with it.
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