http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/a...-diet-truth.htm

Where did this guy come frome??? I have never read so much crap in one place in my life!! It is all there, every myth, lie and half truth, all the BS and fear mongering in one article!! For that I say good job!!!

(BTW, I would have cut and paste the thing, but the knob has the page locked or something, you cannot copy and paste it! I guess he gets cahs everytime someone goes there!)

And here is another one!!

Where do these people come from??

10 Best Reasons a Low-Carb Diet is Wrong
MTH Food & Nutritional Services Department
from the January 2000 issue of Communicating Food for Health and the Low-Carb Fad Diet 2000 Presentation Kit by Food & Health Communications, Inc.
http://www.foodandhealth.com

*Many people are interested in loosing weight and keeping it off. Popular Diets often boast these claims but in fact do the opposite. The information below is from Dr James Kenney, PhD, RD, FACN, Nutrition Research Specialist who is board certified in Human Nutrition.

Just as your car runs best on a certain type of fuel, so does the human body. Unfortunately the latest low-carbohydrate (CHO) fad diets are not the fuel mix the human body was designed to run on. Here are 10 main health risks associated with consuming a high-protein, low-CHO diet over the long run.

1. Poor Long Term Weight Control
There is no metabolic magic in low-CHO diets. Those who continue to lose weight after the first week do so because they decrease calorie intake. This can occur because of decreased dietary variety. Greatly limiting the number of foods that people are allowed to eat, reduces their food and calorie intake. But a reduction in variety most often leads to boredom and cravings over the long run. One recent study showed that a high protein meal leads to a greater tendency towards binging of foods, high in sugar and fat, later in the day.

2. Fainting
Orthostatic hypotension, or a rapid drop in blood pressure when you go from lying down to standing, is caused by a loss of fluid and electrolytes and reduced sympathetic nervous system activity. Both of these occur when your body is deprived of CHO. This may result in dizziness or even fainting when you stand up quickly.

*If you are really interested in loosing weight and keeping it off, you want to know the pros and cons of a Diet before you start it. The claims made by diet programs are not always true.

3. Reduced Athletic Performance Don't let the wrong fuel mix run you down!
Athletic performance is reduced on a low-CHO diet. Since the 1930's it has been known that a high-CHO diet can enhance endurance during strenuous athletic events. Mountain climbers and skiers should be warned that a ketogenic diet greatly increases the risk of mountain sickness.

4. Keto breath
Keto-breath can be described as a cross between nail polish and over-ripe pineapple. This is common for dieters who consume so few CHO that they put their bodies in ketosis. Your best bet for permanent weight loss and control, as well as good health, is twofold:
1) increase the amount of fruits, vegetables, nonfat dairy products, whole grains and beans that you eat.
2) eliminate calorie-dense foods such as cookies, sugary desserts, bagels, crackers, chips, fries, pizza, candies, etc. Research on people who have successfully lost a lot of weight and kept it off long term, shows that the vast majority succeeded by consuming a low-fat diet high in fiber coupled with regular exercise.

*If weight loss and lowering your cholesterol is on your mind, then you want an effective diet to do both. A balanced diet and exercise is the best way to accomplish this. This diet should limit fats and concentrated sweets while increasing your daily activity. Popular Diets Do Not Always follow these guidelines. The information is about The Atkins Diet and other Low-Carbohydrate Diets which are unhealthy.

5. Heart Disease Risk Increases
Risk of heart disease is increased greatly on a low-CHO, low-fiber diet that is high in animal protein, cholesterol and saturated fat. All three raise serum cholesterol, particularly LDL or "bad" cholesterol. Elimination of high-CHO, high-fiber plant foods, that help lower cholesterol, compounds this problem. A high meat intake may excessively increase homocysteine levels and iron stores in the body. There is growing evidence that high levels of both may increase the risk of heart disease.

6. Gout
An excess of uric acid in the body causes gout. This excess can be caused by an increased intake of foods high in purines, which are broken down into uric acid in the body. Meat, poultry, nuts, seeds, eggs and seafood are all fairly high in purines. Elevated levels of uric acid in the blood may lead to needle-like uric acid crystals in joints.

*Instead of following a Low-Carb or Atkins Diet, try a balanced diet. The DASH diet is balanced, includes the characteristics you want and increases your intake of vegetables. The DASH diet research has proven it controls hypertension, and helps to lower cholesterol. It can also be designed for healthy weight loss.

Fruits and vegetables are not included in sufficient quantities in the Low-Carb diet. This is a very serious omission. There are many phytochemicals found in a healthy diet which includes a wide variety of fruits and vegetables. The phytochemicals play an important role in cancer prevention.

7. Cancer Risk Increases
Risk of many cancers is likely to increase when most fruits, vegetables, whole grains and beans are eliminated from the diet. The National Cancer Institute currently recommends, based on the bulk of scientific research, that you eat a plant-based diet that is high-fiber and low-fat.

8. Osteoporosis
Over time, excess protein intake, especially from animal sources, increases the loss of calcium in the urine which may contribute to osteoporosis.

The DASH diet [Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension], has been shown to be of great effectiveness in combating this significant health risk. Fruits and Vegetable are a major ingredient in the dietary approach to fight the dangers of high blood pressure. They also help with weight control by taking the place of high fat - high sugar snack choices.

9. Rising Blood Pressure with Age
Blood pressure will likely increase with age on a typical low-CHO diet. In part, this is because a high-CHO, high-fiber diet includes more fruits, vegetables, whole grains and nonfat dairy products. This diet was shown to lower blood pressure most likely due to its higher content of key minerals such as potassium, calcium and magnesium. Also low-CHO diets do not restrict salt intake, the main reason blood pressure rises with age.

10. Kidney Stones
Both uric acid and calcium oxalate stones are more likely to form on a high protein, ketogenic diet than on a higher carbohydrate diet with more fruits and vegetables.

Here's a better link to the first page - given how many gazillion links are on each page, probably to try to increase their Google ranking or something, they have set it up so you can't grab the text with a simple mouse highlight.

But that doesn't stop me, so I'll paste it here to avoid giving them more clicks. Sorry, I'm too lazy to fix the annoying formatting.

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The TRUTH About Low Carb Diets by Keith Klein
TaeBo Select Malibu Naturals Nutritionist

If you've started a higher-fat, lower-carbohydrate
diet then there are a few things you should know:

Why Low Carbohydrate Diets Don't
Produce Long-Term Results.
Enough about the Atkins diet, let's talk about low-carbohydrate
diets in general. Boy, am I frustrated. If I had a
dime for every time a person asked me about the new
"high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet," I'd be
a millionaire.
It's frustrating because it's like a used car salesman
that's willing to sell you a lemon by highlighting
the up-side of a car, but forgets about letting you
in on the down-side. In the case of the low-carbohydrate
diet, the down-side outweighs the up-side by a huge
margin.
A problem that adds to the confusion is the simple
fact that cutting back on carbohydrates works, at
least for a quick drop in body fat and body water.
The piece of the puzzle missing for most dieters is
the long-term effects on the body due to such a drastic
reduction in carbohydrates.

In case you haven't heard the latest scoop on the
high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet, let me fill you in
on the concept.
This diet was very popular during the 70s and was
popularized by Dr. Atkins. Like many diets of the
past, this one gained a lot of press. After a couple
of years of popularity Dr. Atkins' dieting approach
fell by the wayside for several reasons.
Unfortunately, the low-carbohydrate, high-fat diet
is back, and seems to be gaining in popularity once
again. Currently, Dr. Sears' book The Zone and another
called Protein Power have revitalized the Atkins'
diet.
The concept is that a person should eat more protein,
more fat and very little carbohydrate as the day wears
on. Because the dieter is eating more fat, they tend
to feel full longer, and this helps the person exert
more control over hunger.
In the past, people were allowed to eat as much red
meat as desired, but had to keep their carbohydrate
intake as low as possible. This combination of foods
causes a chemical reaction, thereby causing the person
to burn body fat at an accelerated rate.
It's called a ketogenic diet. The low intake of carbohydrate,
coupled with a high-fat diet and exercise causes the
production of ketones. Ketones are the chemical residue
of broken-down fats in the blood.

To be more specific, if insufficient carbohydrates
exist, the body begins to mobilize fat to a greater
extent than it can use.
The result, both at rest and after exercise, is incomplete
fat metabolism and the accumulation of acid by-products
called ketone bodies. This situation can lead to a
harmful increase in the acidity of the body fluids,
a condition called acidosis or ketosis.
The ketogenic diet was conceived in the 20s by doctors
in France and the United States. They discovered that
prolonged starvation promotes ketosis as the body
uses its fat reserves. So, they devised a way to mimic
the chemistry of starvation through diet.
The current diet revolution is nothing new, it's
just an adaptation of these old concepts. The problem
is, most people get their information from uninformed
sources which fail to understand the scope of their
recommendations.
Low Carbohydrate Diet - What You
Need To Know
If you've started a higher-fat, lower-carbohydrate
diet then there are a few things you should know:

1) By reducing carbohydrates you will see a drop
of body weight and body fat. However, if you drop
them too low while exercising, you could alter your
body's T3 levels.
T3 is an active thyroid molecule that helps regulate
your metabolic rate. Diets low in carbohydrate tend
to cause a reduction of T3, which in turn can slow
down your metabolic rate. This is particularly true
for people who under-eat and over-exercise.
2) A lot of the weight you drop while on a low-carbohydrate
diet is water weight. For every gram of carbohydrate
you ingest, about three to five grams of water usually
accompany it. By decreasing your carbohydrate intake
you naturally drop body water.
Although this may sound like a good idea, when you
resume eating carbohydrates you may find that your
body rebounds and retains excess water. The water
retention will dissipate after several days, but it
wreaks havoc on the dieter's mental state.
3) During the 70s, clinicians began noticing that
people that followed the Atkins' diet regained their
weight very rapidly once they ceased the diet. In
fact, they found the longer a person had been on the
low-carbohydrate diet, the more carbohydrate sensitive
they became.
Further, when this diet was combined with exercise
it caused people to become even more carbohydrate
sensitive. This could be the devastating pitfall,
because once the low-carbohydrate diet has ended,
and the person tries to resume eating carbohydrates,
his body tends to horde and store the carbohydrates
as opposed to using them for energy.

The person notices a fast accumulation of body water
that's followed by an abnormally fast body fat gain.
Although the water weight will eventually drop off,
the person notices that he gains body fat very easily,
but loses it more slowly in the future.
4) Carbohydrates provide a "protein sparing"
effect. Under normal circumstances protein serves
a vital role in the maintenance, repair, and growth
of body tissues. When carbohydrate reserves are reduced
the body will convert protein into glucose for energy.

This process is called gluconeogenesis. The price
that's paid is a reduction in the body's protein stores.
In other words muscle! All, in turn, causes the metabolic
rate to slow down as well.
5) There's another problem that eating too little
carbohydrate creates. Your muscle fullness depends
to a large extent on your carbohydrate intake. Low
carbohydrate levels tend to make muscles lose their
density and flatten out.
Carbohydrates are a great source of fuel, so not
eating enough can lower your energy level and make
your muscles feel softer.

6) These diets focus on the relationship between
carbohydrates and insulin (a hormone that shuttles
fuel into fat). However, their suggestion that insulin
exerts negative effects is not only misleading, it's
downright flawed.
Insulin does play a role in fat storage, but it also
causes glucose to be shuttled into muscle cells as
well. Our diets should keep blood levels of insulin
as stable as possible, not try to suppress its release.
7) On the flip side, you'd have to be totally out-of-the-loop
if you haven't heard that more fat increases your
risk of heart disease, cancer, and obesity. Naturally,
everyone wants to hear that they can eat fats and
lose weight. I guess if you want to look good in your
coffin, then it's okay with me.
I've always disagreed with the American Dietetic
Association and the idea that 30 percent fat is healthy.
I believe that a diet of 20 percent or less fat poses
a substantial health benefit as well as a reduced
risk of obesity.
It amazes me that this diet is back. Are people's
memories really that short that they can't remember
the reason that the Atkins' diet vanished the first
time?
Consider what bodybuilders learned years ago. During
the 70s and early 80s, every major bodybuilding competitor
dieted on a low-carbohydrate, high-fat diet, yet most
of them ended up very smooth and not very well defined.


The bodybuilders of the late 80s and 90s have improved
dramatically. By having a diet high in protein, low
fat, and moderate in carbohydrates, some of the best
physiques ever have been produced.
Some confusion about carbohydrates could stem from
the fact that people see and hear bits and pieces
of information from gym buddies and accept the information
as fact.
While it is true that as a contest nears bodybuilders
decrease their carbohydrates, that doesn't mean that
cutting back excessively yields better results.
Over the years I have found that by removing the
starch at the final meal during the last three to
four weeks before a show, bodybuilders tend to get
very tight and more defined. And for others, a biased
article designed to sell books placed prominently
in a major magazine could be all it takes to attract
everyone's attention.
When you hear people talking about a "new"
diet approach, stop and ask yourself does it follow
healthy guidelines? Does the diet call for measures
that you cannot do for life? If so, don't even try
it.


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About the author
For 18 years Keith Klein has been one of America's
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For Young America, Lean For Life, Get Lean, The Healthy
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"One recent study showed that a high protein meal leads to a greater tendency towards binging of foods, high in sugar and fat, later in the day."

This has to be my favourite bit - there was me thinking a recent study showed exactly the opposite.

I also like the bit about ketosis - naughty diet. But Ican put myself in ketosis eating a low fat, portion controlled diet - how about that?

Ooh, low blood pressure - once again, a low fat, portion controlled diet will do that for me - I used to attribute it to starvation (LOL).

You're right - a superb piece of BS. Thanks for sharing.

There is hardly any money to be made in low-carb anything.

There is a lot of money to be made in telling people they can look like Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie and still eat their carbs.

It will be like this for a long time, 100's of years I would say. Why? Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$....

People want to justify their behavior.....and they will make it up if they have to....also note how you can say anything...true or not...and have a forum online ..if you pay the $19.99 for a website..

Thanks ysabella!!!

I'll admit, I didn't waste too much time looking for a better way to post that! Thanks again!

Also, in the second one I posted, getting the Gout is a new one to me. I have never heard that one before.

Gout can be aggrevated by going on a low-carb diet. The body will be releasing stored uric acid and the blood level can increase leading to a chance of some precipitating out in joints. This is temporary as once the excess uric acid is gone, the diet doesn't increase it.

I had a gout attack for the first time in my life a few months after starting Atkins. It lasted one day and was gone never to return.

I've been trying for 24 hours to post a response to this, but after I press a key, I faint.

ProfGumby, you're welcome. The easiest trick is usually to open a page like that, go up to your browser menu and pick View -> Page Source, or something like that (depends on which browser, but they all have this feature). It'll show you the unprocessed HTML file used to make the page. Usually the text is in there and you can grab it from that window, although sometimes they have been even more nefarious. In this case, the text was there, but I had to clean out the HTML tags in order to post it (something I can do pretty fast in a text editor).

I will say, on the one that I pasted in (the first one ProfGumby linked to), I do agree with this:
This happened to me, however I have a pre-existing thyroid problem. So yes, it's true. But for the vast majority of regular folks, this isn't a problem at all. Too few calories can trigger this for someone like me, as well, but carbs seem to be a specific trigger for the thyroid.
People like me do best cycling the carbs/calories from day to day (low-ish most days, but high one or two days a week) in order to keep the thyroid from dialing down in that way.

Yup http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=285870 I really hope it goes away as I'm finding it unbearable.

As for the rest in that article? People should get punished for crime against humanity for talking such nonsense

It's funny that he mentions the definition of bodybuilders of the 80s and 90s and 00s, considering those are the decades marred by tremendous dosages of Insulin, HGH, IGF, and of course, steroids, yet chalks it all up to a high carb diet.
Before drugs became mandatory in the sport, cutting out all carbs except some fruit and a lot of veggies, was THE diet.

Search Vince Gironda to get real bodybuilding info.

Too funny!

Oh no, the infamous ketoacidiosis. Anti Low-carb critics love to point this out! I have yet to find one Atkins dieter that has fallen victim to this condition following Atkins. Tell me one, tell me, I'm dying to know!!

And the used car analogy to me means this. The upside on Low-carb, I lose weight, my appetite is regulated, and I no longer suffer from unstable blood sugar. The downside: Keto-breath. Who gives a crap about it? Would I turn down a good deal on a Mercedes if it had slight fender damage? No.

As for the long-term weightloss which he says is a near impossibility low-carbing, I haven't found to many 'long-termers' in the high-carb, low-fat category.

I do admire his simplicity. Are we out of the loop, haven't we heard fat is bad for us? Then he goes on to say that that eating all the fats we want will only determine how well we look in our coffins. Now let's weigh the longevity of low-carbers vs. Fruitarians, who wins there dude? Go talk to T.C. Fry who thought he'd live over a hundred, oh wait, he's dead. Poor Fry, too bad. Maybe he was eating too many avocados, you know that fat...

But since he's being simple, I guess I will be to. Take a Type 1 off insulin, and see how well he thrives on a 20% fat diet. I mean, it is the key to a long life, right?