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Old Fri, Feb-17-12, 05:30
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I know zero is not good for a long time.

This is unsettling..
Our ancestors ate zero carb for centuries..
what's not healthy about it?
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 08:51
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After almost 8 years of near-zero carb, it most certainly is sustainable.

However, in practice it’s impossible to be completely at ZERO. There’s always going to be some trace amount of carbs in certain foods such as eggs and cheese. I’ve not experienced any ill health effects with eating at or near zero carb. Also, haven’t eaten a veggie since the…er…Bear thread. Not sure if anyone still remembers that one.

Even my Doctor who had been steadfastly against my dietary choice for “zero” carb has admitted that perhaps he had been wrong about eliminating carbs, at least when it relates to me. He did however observe that for some who had a certain mutated gene, the high saturated fat would cause a litany of adverse health effects.

In practice, I’ve found ZERO carb impossible to adhere to all the time. There’re just too many social lunches, dinners and events where one simply has no choice but to have a drink, slice of dessert and have some carbs.

All things being equal, for most of us, ZERO (at or near zero) is absolutely sustainable.

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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 09:36
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Good to see you back posting here again, Frederick!

And well done for proving your doctor's misconceptions wrong over the years
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 09:44
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Good to see you back posting here again, Frederick!

And well done for proving your doctor's misconceptions wrong over the years


Thanks!

I remember I used to find the "WOL" acronyms comical. I never realized how prophetic they were! This really has become a "way of life!"
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 10:51
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Originally Posted by Frederick
After almost 8 years of near-zero carb, it most certainly is sustainable.

However, in practice it’s impossible to be completely at ZERO. There’s always going to be some trace amount of carbs in certain foods such as eggs and cheese. I’ve not experienced any ill health effects with eating at or near zero carb. Also, haven’t eaten a veggie since the…er…Bear thread. Not sure if anyone still remembers that one.

Even my Doctor who had been steadfastly against my dietary choice for “zero” carb has admitted that perhaps he had been wrong about eliminating carbs, at least when it relates to me. He did however observe that for some who had a certain mutated gene, the high saturated fat would cause a litany of adverse health effects.

In practice, I’ve found ZERO carb impossible to adhere to all the time. There’re just too many social lunches, dinners and events where one simply has no choice but to have a drink, slice of dessert and have some carbs.

All things being equal, for most of us, ZERO (at or near zero) is absolutely sustainable.


I remember the "bear thread". It had an impact on my way of eating too. I dont eat many vegetables anymore

Jo xxx
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 10:57
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just tried searching "bear" with no results. anyone have a link?
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 11:18
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In practice, I’ve found ZERO carb impossible to adhere to all the time. There’re just too many social lunches, dinners and events where one simply has no choice but to have a drink, slice of dessert and have some carbs.

All things being equal, for most of us, ZERO (at or near zero) is absolutely sustainable.


Agree, did pure ZC for almost 2 years, then did other stuff, now I am cycling periods of ZC with period where I can get in some carbs. As they say the 80/20 rule.
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 11:23
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just tried searching "bear" with no results. anyone have a link?


Here you go.

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=287013
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 11:54
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Heck, its a long one lol - I'll have a re-read....!!!

Jo xxx
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 11:57
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Heck, its a long one lol - I'll have a re-read....!!!

Jo xxx


Yeah, that's got to be my all time favorite thread. It was informative and lots of fun!
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 13:00
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Thanks for the link, plenty of good reading for a rainy day. I guess I assumed Bear would be in the topic, didn't realize TheBear was a poster. Thanks for saving me from hours of searching.
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 13:06
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 13:15
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yep that's him
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 13:15
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Sure sounds like him based on what I just read on his website. Didn't see any death notice on the website, though.
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Old Sun, Jun-09-13, 13:16
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That's him!
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