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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 10:45
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I would really like some comments on the whole fat concern.I am acually reading that there is a new diet out there that incourages people to eat great amounts of fat.
Can this really be true.I cant believe that people would even be able to eat this way......eggs dripping in lard.Auggggg
Would we feed our children this way?
They say that this is the new way to stay healthy and fit.
My opinion is.....there is always one nutty doc in the crowd.
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 10:54
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Perhaps it would help if you expanded your reading beyond Atkins. There is already a thread on the diet you're questioning in the Media section. As mentioned in that section, the two oldest proponents of low-carb have always recommended high-fat, not high-protein, and both diets have been around for decades.
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 11:14
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I have read tons of things on different diets but i just just wondering how people felt about this.
I would like to know if anyone out there is going to stay on one of these diets for life.....
If you should decide to stick to it are there really no health concerns.

No where does it say 100% so just looking for feed back.
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Old Thu, Mar-31-05, 15:19
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Perhaps it would help if you expanded your reading beyond Atkins. There is already a thread on the diet you're questioning in the Media section. As mentioned in that section, the two oldest proponents of low-carb have always recommended high-fat, not high-protein, and both diets have been around for decades.



and watch the video....this woman looks like Hell
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Old Thu, Mar-31-05, 15:36
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If you take a look at the posts in the (lc/research) and watch the vidio these people are NOT doing SB or Atkins they are eating huge amounts of fat.65% of their diet is fat.


Cygirl, that may not be South Beach, but it is certainly in line with Atkins induction: http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/2/3-915798.html
Note that when they analyzed their own menus, 58% of daily calories were coming from various fats. 60-65% isn't a great deal more.
Please also consider that as you move upwards on the carb ladder, fat percentages do decrease somewhat, but are never reduced to the 'recommended' 30% of total daily calories.
Personal taste aside, I really am curious about what you seem to think is so horrible about having a high fat intake when carbs are limited?
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Old Thu, Mar-31-05, 16:03
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but it is certainly in line with Atkins induction: http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/2/3-915798.html



yes it is but i didnt say that i said for life.There is a reason why you are only on induction for 2 weeks.
I dont do induction i have a way to eat for life.Not a diet really.
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 11:30
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I've been on such a diet for years. And what do you mean by 100%?? 100% of what?
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 11:41
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if you have been on this diet for years i would be interested to see your stats.

100% that is is healthy
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 11:49
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Not sure what you mean by stats. I eat low-carb/high fat for health benefits, not to lose weight, as I have none to lose. I'm 56, and quite positive that low-carb/high-fat is of benefit to me. I have no energy problems, no health problems, and am physically active. All pretty boring, I guess...
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 12:04
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I eat very high fat. I add butter to everything, drizzle olive and coconut oils on all sorts of things, cook everything in ghee and other oils such as organic canola and safflower oils. I use lots of cream, and high fat cheeses, and plenty of nuts nearly every day. I feel a thousand times better than before, and my results speak for themself.
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 12:07
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If you didnt need to lose what was the health benefit.

I am going to do some more reading n this subject but has anyone else been on this diet that is out there.
If not for weight why would you eat this way.
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 12:32
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If you didnt need to lose what was the health benefit.

I am going to do some more reading n this subject but has anyone else been on this diet that is out there.
If not for weight why would you eat this way.


I know you werent addressing me, but I just had to chime in.

High fat, low carb is a healthy way of eating, and just because you arent overweight has no bearing on whether you should eat that way or not.

I personally dont follow a specific plan, however I do eat low carb, very high fat (no hydrogenated or rancid fats though), and i started eating this way to improve my health in general. Not just to lose weight. Nearly all of my health problems have either improved loads, or gone away entirely. Also since it is a healthy way to eat it can prevent many health problems from occuring in the first place.
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 17:22
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I am going to do some more reading n this subject

You could start here: The Skinny on Fats.

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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 17:49
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thanx Rosebud.!

I quess the real debate is how much fat is ok.
I couldnt live on high fats,
--6 eggs cooked in lard etc.
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Old Wed, Mar-30-05, 17:55
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Cygirl: you don't know for sure until you've tried it!
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