Sun, Oct-18-15, 08:40
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Senior Member
Posts: 15,075
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Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154
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Progress: 104%
Location: Ontario
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I admit it, I have very little patience for rabid arguments for or against eating a Whole Food Plant Based Diet,
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Amen. As far as Dr. Bernard being the enemy... you're right, he shouldn't be. But his view of low carb mixes things up. John McDougall shouldn't be the enemy... but I've seen him suggest that low carb works in the same sense that chemotherapy works, it just makes people too sick to eat. Rabid arguments against low carbohydrate aren't so good, either. Even if a plant based diet would cure 100 percent of diabetics--the probability of 100 percent of diabetics going on a plant based diet, that's low enough in fat to achieve the sort of insulin-sensitizing effect that Dr. Barnard talks about in the video is pretty much nil. The same is true of low carb, not everybody is going to do it. Maybe in an ideal world, low carb doctors would suggest low fat as a possible option to patients who don't respond well, for whatever reason, compliance or otherwise, and low fat vegan doctors would suggest low carb for their hard cases. That can't happen as long as Dr. Atkins is looked at as a sort of Devil-figure by so many leaders of the plant-based diet movement.
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Barnard, for one, disagrees. "I would never prescribe a low-carb diet for people with diabetes because they raise their risk for coronary artery disease," he says.
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Until he rescinds statements like this, Dr. Barnard remains the enemy. Dr. Bernstein is busy saving lives. Dr. Fung is busy saving lives. Warn somebody that these diets are deadly--and then fail to convert them to an alternate approach, even assume absolutely that it would have worked--has the potential to prevent lives from being saved. And of course this argument can be reversed. First do no harm.
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