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Old Tue, Sep-23-08, 01:04
Shannon2 Shannon2 is offline
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See I nearly didn't type 'shoyu' in because I have no idea what n earth it is! So its easy for me to give that one up! LOL

But, I hear you on the coffee!
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Old Tue, Sep-23-08, 01:43
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It's funny you would mention 'shoyou' because I was debating if I should chose soy sauce instead. 'Shoyou' is Japanese 'soy sauce'.

I'm Japanese and I use lot of soysauce and vinegar for cooking. I also use drop of soysauce and wasabi (or red pepper season) in mayonnaise to make salad dressing or dip for veggie sticks (cucumber and celery).
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Old Fri, Oct-31-08, 02:34
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Ok,

I can't work out how to use our scanner! So here it is, retyped.

FORBIDDEN:
Commercial breads and biscuits with wheat
Oats (for the first 3 weeks)
Commercial muffins, cakes and pastries
Wheat or semolina based pasta
all foods containing yeast
alcohol (for the first month, and thereafter vodka is best)
fruit juice
soft drink (have plain mineral water instead)
cordials
tea (can have decaf or herbal tea)
coffee (can have decaf)
dairy milk
soy milk with malt or sugar
sugar, artificial sweeteners, malt, honey, fructose, lactose
salt pepper, vinegar, soy sauce, mayonnaise, tamari, shoyu, worcestershire sauce
margarine, butter and all commercial spreads (except for grape juice sweetened, no sugar, jam)
No dairy (except small amounts of fresh fetta and ricotta)
No fruit at all for the first month, thereafter limit fruit intake, peaches and strawberries are best, then after 2 months can have pawpaw, banana, pineapple and kiwifruit. Melons are out totally.
Avoid shellfish, sausage, salami, ham and other processed or preserved meats
no peanuts, coconut, old nuts and seeds
no mushrooms
no fermented foods like miso or tofu
for the first 3 weeks: no potato, sweet potato, corn,beans or squash. They are all ok to eat after 3 weeks has passed.




ALTERNATIVES ALLOWED:
Rice, corn, buckwheat, millet
rice or corn crackers
puffed millet and rice flakes cereal
rice corn millet or buckwheat pasta
Pau D'Arco tea (great for getting rid of candida)
diluted vegetable juices (no carrot)
homemade salad dressins with linseed or olive oil and lemon juice
tahini
avocado
home made hommous (cooked chickpeas blended with garlic, lemon juice and tahini)
soy or rice milk with no sugar or malt
lean beef, chicken, lamb and fresh fish
fresh nuts and seeds
try to pick low gi fruits and veg


Ok so it looks pretty boring, its really no wonder it gets you so healthy - look at what you're eating! I find that the best way to do it is be brutal, throw everything out of the cupboard that doesn't fit with this plan - has added sugar or whatever. Then make everything from scratch. Ok it can be boring but the difference in how you feel and look (glowing skin etc) makes it soooo worth it. I find it hard though when I leave stuff in the cupboard, stocks and sauces etc with sugar, thinking it won't matter (plus I don't like to make BF's dinner too boring), but a little bit of sugar really does make a difference because candida only needs a little bit to survive. And the point is to get rid of it.

The supplements are:
Chinese herbs: these are miracle things - should be able to get them from any chinese herbalist. The supplement I'm on is called: Huang Lian Jie Du Tang (Coptis & Scutellaria Combination)
Pau D'Arco capsules, 2 twice a day
Vitamin C (to give the immune system a bit of a chance) 1000mg 2 times a day
Probiotics - either the acidopholous you keep in the fridge or if your like me and keep forgetting to put it in the fridge, there's one called Kolorex. Its not a probiotic as such but does the same thing, doesn't need to be kept in the fridge and it does a great job. I think you can get it online.
Olive leaf - a few mls in water every day
The naturopath also gave me some herbal drops which were specialised to me so probably not much point in me talking about them. But what's here will give you a good start to get a handle on things anyway.

hope it helps! I'm starting clean again today on the above diet/atkins style (the above just a lower carb version) if anyone feels inspired to join me!


So much bad information gets passed around about the candida diet. Here's my 2 cents worth on this list for what it's worth:

Decaf coffee is a no-no, it still contains the same amount of acid as regular coffee and with candida, you want to be encouraging an alkali environment in the gut, not an acid one. Besides anything else, the acid in the coffee will play havoc with your stomach if your candida has made it at all sensitive.

Coconut, hmm, it contains caprylic acid which is a known anti-fungal agent so why that should be forbidden is a mystery. Provided it's fresh and not processed, it has no negative impact on candida and should actually help fight it.

Tofu is not a fermented product. Why folk insist on saying it is, is beyond me. I make my own tofu and can assure people that there's zero fermentation involved in the process.

There are other questionable additions to both of the lists on this diet but these three strike me as the most misleading and factually unsubstantiated.

Hope that might help some folks out.

Cheers
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Old Fri, Oct-31-08, 04:12
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Tofu is not a fermented product. Why folk insist on saying it is, is beyond me. I make my own tofu and can assure people that there's zero fermentation involved in the process.


Does this mean tofu is allowed on the diet? Thanks in advance.
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Old Fri, Oct-31-08, 09:31
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Does this mean tofu is allowed on the diet? Thanks in advance.


I'm no nutritionist or dietary expert but I can tell you categorically that tofu is not made by any method involving fermentation. It's merely soy milk compressed and coagulated with calcium sulphate. Take a look for yourself:

www.soya.be/how-to-make-tofu.php

I've eaten it consistently throughout periods of candida and never experienced any noticeable ill effects.
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Old Fri, Oct-31-08, 10:00
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Decaf coffee is a no-no, it still contains the same amount of acid as regular coffee and with candida, you want to be encouraging an alkali environment in the gut, not an acid one. Besides anything else, the acid in the coffee will play havoc with your stomach if your candida has made it at all sensitive.

Not that I would recommend decaf coffee, but I think the whole acidity thing is misunderstood. Your mouth, stomach, and gut all have different levels of acidity, and your body needs the resources to maintain that. Your stomach should be very acidic - if it's not acidic enough you can't digest your food fully. Chloride is helpful for that, and I've heard iodine is too. Maintaining blood alkalinity (and gut alkalinity as well, I imagine) requires minerals, which are difficult to absorb unless you get them along with some kind of acid! Citric, ascorbic, and lactic acid are all good - and lactic acid is found mostly in fermented foods. On the other hand, phytic and oxalic acid - found in grains, seeds, nuts, and beans (including soybeans) - inhibit mineral absorption.
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Old Fri, Oct-31-08, 10:10
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I forgot that tofu has calcium added. That probably helps with the phytates. I don't eat it myself, though.
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Old Fri, Oct-31-08, 23:16
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Not that I would recommend decaf coffee, but I think the whole acidity thing is misunderstood. Your mouth, stomach, and gut all have different levels of acidity, and your body needs the resources to maintain that. Your stomach should be very acidic - if it's not acidic enough you can't digest your food fully. Chloride is helpful for that, and I've heard iodine is too. Maintaining blood alkalinity (and gut alkalinity as well, I imagine) requires minerals, which are difficult to absorb unless you get them along with some kind of acid! Citric, ascorbic, and lactic acid are all good - and lactic acid is found mostly in fermented foods. On the other hand, phytic and oxalic acid - found in grains, seeds, nuts, and beans (including soybeans) - inhibit mineral absorption.


You are absolutely right there Capmikee, and I'm getting my issues confused in the advice I was attempting to dispense. However, my problem with decaf coffee still persists and relates to its effect on gastric acid secretion and gastroesophageal reflux. As GERD can be a common symptom in candida sufferers, consuming anything that's known to contribute significantly to this disease/syndrome is surely best avoided.
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Old Mon, Dec-01-08, 23:44
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Leslie, I hope you went well at the doctor?



I haven't checked this thread in ages....sorry. My doc never even considered yeast problems and told me that "I read too many books". He needs . He thinks everything can be solved with a pill so decided to see if birth control pills would work - yeah he really did say that. After 2 months, I took myself off them not really for candida problems, but they were making me horribly depressed - ladies please never take Yaz EVER. He did make me realize that some of my symptoms may be linked to hormonal imbalances though.
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Old Thu, Dec-04-08, 02:30
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I haven't checked this thread in ages....sorry. My doc never even considered yeast problems and told me that "I read too many books". He needs . He thinks everything can be solved with a pill so decided to see if birth control pills would work - yeah he really did say that. After 2 months, I took myself off them not really for candida problems, but they were making me horribly depressed - ladies please never take Yaz EVER. He did make me realize that some of my symptoms may be linked to hormonal imbalances though.


Do you supplement with Vitamin D3? It really gives you a positive mood booster! I can absolutely recommend it (and it took me months of deliberating this one till I finally decided to do it). I'm 45 and I have noticed that I have got upset over nothing recently (like I would on the day before my TOM arrives). So I decided to start taking it. Since then I have felt better in many ways. I feel that my thinking is clearer and I feel less driven and less prone to hectic all-over-the-place running around. It's really rather difficult to describe the differences, but I feel more balanced; I feel like a kind of "brain fog" has lifted.

I didn't start taking it early enough to ward off the first winter cold virus, but I think it's helping to make the symptoms I usually get less severe. However, I have been taking a systemic enzyme supplement ("Wobenzym") for a few months, too, and this is also supposed to boost your immune system and help counter inflammation (including sinus inflammation), so of course it's impossible to say which of these things has helped with what process.

Nonetheless, I noticed the differences with taking the Vitamin D3 - as far as it effected my mood, frame of mind and general alertness - after just two days. The Wobenzym had not produced this effect.

Good luck and don't go taking any old pills that this Doc recommends!!!

amanda
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Old Thu, Dec-11-08, 16:16
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That's funny because I think even Dr. Atkins stated in his books that birth control can aggravate/cause yeast symptoms.
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Old Sun, Dec-21-08, 20:58
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Originally Posted by Luzyanna
I haven't checked this thread in ages....sorry. My doc never even considered yeast problems and told me that "I read too many books". He needs . He thinks everything can be solved with a pill so decided to see if birth control pills would work - yeah he really did say that. After 2 months, I took myself off them not really for candida problems, but they were making me horribly depressed - ladies please never take Yaz EVER.
He did make me realize that some of my symptoms may be linked to hormonal imbalances though.


Taking oral birth control pills is one of the main triggers of Candidiasis. I switched to the NuvaRing and I've made GREAT progress.

My doctor doesn't "believe" me either. That's only because Western medicine is controlled by the pharmaceutical industry. There's no "magic pill" to take to rid Candida, so doctors don't learn about it in school.
Depression is also a side effect of Candidiasis....crazy how it's all linked together, huh??

Stay away from the bad stuff and start consuming grapeseed and coconut oil.

Start slowly, though, they will make you feel sick.

I make an "egg smoothie" every morning for breakfast, and it really helps me get through the day. Without it, I doubt I'd make it past noon! Sounds pretty gross, but it's actually not that bad. =)

Here's the recipe:
3 eggs
2 tbs unrefined coconut oil
1 to 1.5 dropper liquid stevia
1 tbs flavor extract (i usually use vanilla or maple)
1 tbs cinnamon
.5 tbs nutmeg
1 to 1.5 cups boiling h2o

Let the hot water sit in the blender for a minute, then blend on high for 20 seconds.

Very weird at first, but it will definitely grow on you!! (especially since it's the sweetest thing you can have without getting sick!!)

The sooner you make a commitment to the Candida diet, the sooner you'll feel better. It's really hard, but you can do it!! I did!

Good luck! I hope I helped!
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Old Thu, Dec-25-08, 10:48
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I make an "egg smoothie" every morning for breakfast, and it really helps me get through the day. Without it, I doubt I'd make it past noon! Sounds pretty gross, but it's actually not that bad. =)

Here's the recipe:
3 eggs
2 tbs unrefined coconut oil
1 to 1.5 dropper liquid stevia
1 tbs flavor extract (i usually use vanilla or maple)
1 tbs cinnamon
.5 tbs nutmeg
1 to 1.5 cups boiling h2o

Let the hot water sit in the blender for a minute, then blend on high for 20 seconds.



Thanks slimjane11 for reminding me of the egg drink! I've had a similar drink before but what I liked about your recipe was that it was so concentrated. Mine included 2 eggs and 2 cups water.

I wanted to post a variation on your recipe:

3 eggs
2T butter (ghee for those who cannot tolerate butter)
2T EVCO
2t cinnamon
1t nutmeg
1.5 droppers liquid stevia (I have french vanilla flaver)
1.5 C boiling water

Put everything but water in the blender and blend on low-med speed till the butter and coconut oil is in small pieces. Then add the boiling water and blend on low to keep foam from forming. If you like lots of foam, blend on high for 30-60 seconds.

Like slimjane11 said, sounds weird, but it's pretty yummy! If you're afraid of bacteria from the eggs, wash them well. Salmonella comes from the shells, not raw eggs, so I've heard.
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Old Sat, Jan-31-09, 09:51
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This is all rather interesting. I'm trying to figure out if my mild breakout is from a recent intake of macodamia and almond nuts or perimenopause issue. Thanks for all this information.
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Ok,



ALTERNATIVES ALLOWED:
Rice, corn, buckwheat, millet
rice or corn crackers
puffed millet and rice flakes cereal
rice corn millet or buckwheat pasta
Pau D'Arco tea (great for getting rid of candida)
diluted vegetable juices (no carrot)
homemade salad dressins with linseed or olive oil and lemon juice
tahini
avocado
home made hommous (cooked chickpeas blended with garlic, lemon juice and tahini)
soy or rice milk with no sugar or malt
lean beef, chicken, lamb and fresh fish
fresh nuts and seeds
try to pick low gi fruits and veg



i wouldn't go near most things listed on here as 'alternatives'. most people with candida issues are severely allergic to corn, soy, any sort of seeds or seed products, chickpeas, nuts, avocado, and all fruits.

my favorite website is http://healingnaturallybybee.com/
she really knows what she's talking about. there's also an entire recipe section!!

good luck!
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