Resistant Carbs: The Secret Weapon to Fight Cancer? : Low-Carb War Zone Forum : Active Low-Carber Forums

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Fri, Apr-12-13, 07:03

WereBear

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When I did three rounds of antibiotics last year (before I figured out it was Sick Building Syndrome, fortunately getting much better) the drugs gave me stomachaches. What fixed it was stuff like black beans and sweet potatoes. So I can see such "resistant starches" having some helpful uses, such as when gut flora isn't optimum. (Mine were getting killed off like kamikazes.)

However, I wouldn't call this a normal or optimum state of affairs. They gave me cravings and I really got tired of fighting those off. I put on ten extra pounds... and I was already trying to loose my last ten

Now that all my health ducks are back in a row, I'm going at IF with a vengeance, 5% carbs and nothing above rung 5, which leaves out all forms of starch.

I already feel the better for it, and have the looser pants to prove it is working!

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Fri, Apr-26-13, 19:28

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Just to add my 2 cents worth-- in regard to the colon cancer prevention-- I think My specialist would have really talked to me abouthis when I saw him just a couple years ago. His recommendation was to drink a serving of Konsyl once a day = fiber. No mention about changing my foods. THough I do skip the sugars that feed the cancer cells.

Insulin is insulin--the effects are detrimental. According to Dr Atkins, small portions of resistant or hgh carb foods can be added in but at very low levels. THe total carb count is very important to maintain BW and blood sugar. He mentions spreading out the carbs over the meals and not save up for one meal. ( Which is opposite of another LC dietmethod = THe Carb Atict).

I am open to leaning new information' I expect some of the findings that Stikins quoted to be updated, but the basics shouldn't change at this p oint. I read all the posts in this thread--we live the low carb life because we know the effect specific carb foods have on our bodies.

In respect to Dr Oz. , I do think he brings on guests for a couple reasons. One, new ideas keep viewers viewing. and second, different ideas are worth discussing. I've never been under the impression that he was a propoent of his guests, rather he was the gracious host and treated his guest respectfully. All in the name of education.

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Sun, Jun-16-13, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Whofan

Absolutely do not want to squabble, but I would like to explain that my, personal, dismissal of healthywholegrains and starches is because I had eaten them every day of my life for decades (and in even larger quantities for the 10 years when I was a vegan). I used to love unripe bananas, potatoes, brown rice, and just about every other form of grain or starch available. They had no health benefits for me. It was not until I stopped eating them completely that I realized they had caused: asthma, annulare granuloma (a skin rash I had for 26 years), joint pain, triglycerides at 380, gum disease, brittle hair and fingernails, and intense, uncontrollable, aching, cravings for more and more and more of them. I know this was all caused by grains and starch because, within weeks of eliminating them from my diet, every single one of those symptoms disappeared - including the 26 year skin rash that no doctor could cure - and two years later have never returned.

When I convinced my boyfriend to stop eating healthywholegrains, in 3 days he lost a debilitating pain in his foot that had plagued him for a few years and within 2 weeks reversed a rapidly rising PSA count (a marker for prostate cancer) that was about to send him for a second painful biopsy.

So, perhaps, "instant" dismissal is not really an accurate characterization of my feelings toward articles like the one in question. I've had decades of health problems to help me decide whether to believe in the healing powers of grains or not. From my experience the only conclusion I can come to is that I emphatically do not. And, I do care about other people, so it worries me to think that they too may be suffering needlessly because they are constantly encouraged to eat these substances.

After all that, for me, the effortless weight loss when I kicked those things to the curb is merely a wonderful, amazing, side effect.

Thank you for posting your health victories--they help in deciphering some of what's out there.

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Sun, Jun-16-13, 15:02

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http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/doc...TML/index.xhtml

Not really on the subject of resistant carbs (although in the context of a diet that lowers insulin vs at least the SAD, it might be relevant). But I thought this was interesting;

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The main objective of the present study was to test the hypothesis that exogenous insulin would enhance colon carcinogenesis. Thirty-six female F344 rats, fed ad libitum a low fat rodent chow, received a single azoxymethane injection (20 mg/kg), and were randomized a week later to two groups. Control rats were given 5 days a week a s.c. saline injection, and experimental rats were given ultralente bovine insulin, 20 U/kg. The promoting effect of insulin injections was assessed by the multiplicity (number of crypts) of aberrant crypt foci after 100 d of treatment (72 injections). The rats given insulin ate more and were heavier than controls (215 ± 11 vs. 182 ± 7 g, p<0.001). Insulin injections also increased the amount of abdominal fat, the plasma triglycerides, and the insulinemia, and decreased blood glucose (all p<0.05). The number of aberrant crypt foci was the same in both groups, but their multiplicity was significantly increased by the insulin injections (2.8 ± 0.3 vs. 2.5 ± 0.2 crypt/focus in controls, p=0.007). Besides, the proportion of sialomucin producing foci was higher in insulin injected rats than in controls (p=0.04). These data show that exogenous insulin can promote colon carcinogenesis in rats, and suggest that lifestyle and diets leading to low blood insulin might protect humans against colorectal cancer.

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Previous reports show that insulin is a growth factor for rats and for tumors. Daily insulin injections (25 U/kg for 28 d) increase body weight, fat tissue weight, and fat cell size in female rats (25). Daily insulin injections to hypophysectomized rats enable the growth of liver tumors, initiated by dietary methyldimethyl-aminobenzene (26). Conversely, diabetes induced by alloxan in female rats previously initiated with dimethylbenzenthra- dimethylbenzenthracene produces the rapid regression of 90% of established mammary tumors. These tumors were shown to be insulin dependent in vitro

Especially the red, that's a crazy result.