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Old Sat, Mar-23-13, 09:06
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Smile Drink your vegetables

Not too long ago i started watching videos about juicing and how it brings more vitamins into your blood stream. Normally when you eat solid food it goes through your digestive system and does not break down 100% therefor you do not get all of the vitamins in the food. So I decided that when i started Atkins ...again I'd do it but with a twist to it. I bought the nutri bullet and add greens to it such as organic spring mix pre washed lettuce , cucumber, mushroom, red bell pepper or whatever i have on hand that is okay on induction and then i squeeze half of a lemon into it and a few slices of fresh ginger to give it a nice taste . This is called a Ginger lemon blast and it tastes really good. Makes a nice flavorful anytime drink with loads of vitamins. Dont forget to add the water. P.S. You can use a juicer or even a blender perhaps to make this. Enjoy!!
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Old Thu, Mar-28-13, 08:25
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Drink vegetables, that's cool. But I like both vegetable juice and smoothies. Smoothies contains juice and fiber, and the fiber will take the room, so you don't have to eat too much. I think it will help to loose the weight. :-)
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Old Thu, Mar-28-13, 09:00
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Drink vegetables, that's cool. But I like both vegetable juice and smoothies. Smoothies contains juice and fiber, and the fiber will take the room, so you don't have to eat too much. I think it will help to loose the weight. :-)


Yes, mine contain all the fiber. I use the NutriBullet which leaves all of the nutrient filled pulp in the drink. How long have you been drinking your veggies? Do you also think its better to consume them that way?
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Old Thu, Mar-28-13, 09:28
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There is one argument to leaving your veggies whole, what sugar is in them is released slowly, as they're digested. Basically your blender is doing all the digestion for you, so the sugar will be released much quicker.

That's the argument against eating blended fruit/vegetable stuff as in this thread: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=451497

I don't have a horse in this race though. If you're not inclined to eat veggies, then blending them is probably the next best thing. I love veggies, they're a platform for delicious things like butter and garlic.
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Old Thu, Mar-28-13, 09:51
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There is one argument to leaving your veggies whole, what sugar is in them is released slowly, as they're digested. Basically your blender is doing all the digestion for you, so the sugar will be released much quicker.

That's the argument against eating blended fruit/vegetable stuff as in this thread: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=451497

I don't have a horse in this race though. If you're not inclined to eat veggies, then blending them is probably the next best thing. I love veggies, they're a platform for delicious things like butter and garlic.


I'm not eating any fruits, I'm only eating vegies that are approved during the induction phase of the atkins diet such as green leafy vegetables, some cucumber, mushrooms, etc.....I dont think that those contain any sugar.
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Old Thu, Mar-28-13, 11:48
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I'm not eating any fruits, I'm only eating vegies that are approved during the induction phase of the atkins diet such as green leafy vegetables, some cucumber, mushrooms, etc.....I dont think that those contain any sugar.


All vegetables contain carbohydrates, and those carbs are either sugar or starch. Starch breaks down into simple sugar during digestion.
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Old Fri, Mar-29-13, 07:01
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All vegetables contain carbohydrates, and those carbs are either sugar or starch. Starch breaks down into simple sugar during digestion.

Yes, that's right, they just need one more step to break down.
I eat fruits and vegetable daily, about 2/3 of my daily meals is vege and fruits. I cook most of the vegetables. But some of them I like eat in raw.
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Old Mon, May-27-13, 14:33
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Drink vegetables is good idea, i agree with you "Petey"
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Old Mon, May-27-13, 19:39
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All vegetables contain carbohydrates, and those carbs are either sugar or starch. Starch breaks down into simple sugar during digestion.


Green leafy vegetables are not a starch. Simple carbohydrates such as pasta and rice are starch and turn to sugar when they are broken down.
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Old Mon, May-27-13, 20:24
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Green leafy vegetables are not a starch. Simple carbohydrates such as pasta and rice are starch and turn to sugar when they are broken down.


Green leafy vegetables are a combination of fiber (e.g. cellulose) and carbohydrate. The carbohydrate is either sugar or starch and those are how vegetable store their energy. Sugar is a simple carbohydrate and starch is a complex carbohydrate. Carbohydrates in any form will elicit an insulin response. Some, such as Dr Richard Bernstein, maintain that even fiber will elicit an insulin response.

I'm not saying vegetables are bad - I happen to love them. However they contain carbohydrates.
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Old Mon, May-27-13, 21:27
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Green leafy vegetables are a combination of fiber (e.g. cellulose) and carbohydrate. The carbohydrate is either sugar or starch and those are how vegetable store their energy. Sugar is a simple carbohydrate and starch is a complex carbohydrate. Carbohydrates in any form will elicit an insulin response. Some, such as Dr Richard Bernstein, maintain that even fiber will elicit an insulin response.

I'm not saying vegetables are bad - I happen to love them. However they contain carbohydrates.


You stated that green leafy vegetables contain starch. This is not true.

When you have diabetes, eating low-carb vegetables is a smart way to fill up without filling out your waistline or raising your blood sugar. Non-starchy or low-carbohydrate vegetables are loaded with vitamins, minerals, and fiber as well as being low in in calories. http://www.everydayhealth.com/diabe...s.aspx#/slide-1
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Old Tue, May-28-13, 08:04
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I did not say leafy green vegetables contain starch, I said they contain carbohydrates, and that carbohydrates are composed of sugars or starches. If they do not contain starch, they contain sugar. My point is that starch and sugar are not that different because starch is just long chains of simple sugars which are broken upon digestion. They both have the same effect on blood sugar, though starch may take slightly longer to be digested.

Though leafy greens may not contain starch, and only small amounts of sugar, other induction-approved vegetables and fruits such as radishes, red pepper, onions, turnips, tomatoes do contain significant amounts of sugars and/or starches.

Rice and pasta are not "simple carbohydrates".They are starches which are, by definition, complex carbohydrates. They may be stripped of fiber and vitamins, but they are still starches, aka complex carbohydrates.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedi...e+carbohydrates

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedi...x+carbohydrates

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Old Tue, May-28-13, 12:07
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I did not say leafy green vegetables contain starch, I said they contain carbohydrates, and that carbohydrates are composed of sugars or starches. If they do not contain starch, they contain sugar. My point is that starch and sugar are not that different because starch is just long chains of simple sugars which are broken upon digestion. They both have the same effect on blood sugar, though starch may take slightly longer to be digested.

Though leafy greens may not contain starch, and only small amounts of sugar, other induction-approved vegetables and fruits such as radishes, red pepper, onions, turnips, tomatoes do contain significant amounts of sugars and/or starches.

Rice and pasta are not "simple carbohydrates".They are starches which are, by definition, complex carbohydrates. They may be stripped of fiber and vitamins, but they are still starches, aka complex carbohydrates.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedi...e+carbohydrates

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedi...x+carbohydrates



Yes, you said that vegetables either contain sugar or starch. Go back to your first reply to this thread.
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Old Tue, May-28-13, 12:30
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Yes, you said that vegetables either contain sugar or starch. Go back to your first reply to this thread.


Yes, I said that and I stand by it.

Why does this matter so much to you? Are you trying to convince me that vegetables do not contain carbohydrates? Not going to happen. I count my carbs every day and the veggies I eat contribute 60-75% to that count.
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Old Tue, May-28-13, 12:57
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Hey Petey - Glad you started this thread. I have a breville juicer and it's sitting there sad and lonely on the counter. Because what I found out is that to make one serving of juice...the carb count was far too high for induction. Maybe I'm counting wrong or something?? How many carbs do you count for that mix you listed. Sounds amazing by the way! I love a mixture of kale, celery, lemon, and sometimes even cilantro. In any case if it's working for you, cheers!! I certainly do miss my juices!! They seem to give you such a burst of healthy energy.
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