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Old Tue, Jul-07-20, 11:41
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Vitamin D3 deficiency and its role in colds, influenza and COVID 19 infections
Vitamin D3 has a major impact on the outcome of COVID -19 Infections

http://www.vitamind3world.com/Vitam...swine_H1N1.html



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This relationship with Vitamin D should perhaps not come as a surprise. An article by Richard Hobday entitled "Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic" detailed how the patients of the 1918 epidemic were treated as were TB patients by being exposed to the sun when ever possible! (190)


This must be why people with TB were sent to a sanatorium to get sun and vitamin D.
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Old Tue, Jul-07-20, 12:34
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Exposure to sun is undervalued. While my zone is iffy on sufficient winter exposure , we now use the sun to sanitize our masks between uses. Makes me wonder if TB can survive outside the lungs/body. And why do chronic TB cases exist today, yes , antibiotics are not eorking, but perhaps more time outside in tje sun has multiple good health effects.

Our medical system is a joke when it comes to prevention. (Vaccinations aside)
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Old Tue, Jul-07-20, 13:29
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Our medical system is a joke when it comes to prevention. (Vaccinations aside)


Since they're not trained in anything else but opening up a PDR and looking for the right pill, that's what we get. That and what the pharmaceutical sales people gives them to hand out for free to get patients hooked on the newest pill. $$$

edited to add, if they get you on pillsssssssssss, you're a patient for life, or death
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Old Tue, Jul-07-20, 13:51
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edited to add, if they get you on pillsssssssssss, you're a patient for life, or death


Too true.
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Old Thu, Jul-09-20, 05:14
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The basis of this guest post at Dr Malcom Kendrick's blog is a chart of Vit D vs. CoVid 19 severity published in GrassRootsHealth back in April, against further actual case data from around the world.

Season, Latitude, and COVID-19 Severity

Here is a Coronavirus puzzle for you to ponder


https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/...-guest-article/
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Old Thu, Jul-09-20, 15:21
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The basis of this guest post at Dr Malcom Kendrick's blog is a chart of Vit D vs. CoVid 19 severity published in GrassRootsHealth back in April, against further actual case data from around the world.

Season, Latitude, and COVID-19 Severity

Here is a Coronavirus puzzle for you to ponder


https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/...-guest-article/





Im thankful that due to this thread, my family members take D3 all year long. Praying it will keep flu symptoms low as well as Covid. The blood clots due to attack on artery lining is devistating.

And if vitD was known 15 yrs ago to support immune health, why isnt such info well communicated.

Perhaps the loss of the "got milk?" advertising has had a negative effect. Milk seems to be the primary source of supplemented vit D imho. Vit D testing should be part of the annual testing. Again imho.
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Old Tue, Jul-14-20, 08:19
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Low serum 25‐hydroxyvitamin D (25[OH]D) levels in patients hospitalised with COVID‐19 are associated with greater disease severity

Objectives
Vitamin D deficiency (VDD) has been proposed to play a role in Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID‐19) pathophysiology. We aim to evaluate our implementation of a local protocol for treatment of VDD among patients hospitalized for COVID‐19; to assess the prevalence of VDD among COVID‐19 inpatients, and examine potential associations with disease severity and fatality.

Design and Participants
We conducted a retrospective interim audit of a local clinical care pathway for 134 inpatients with COVID‐19. Prevalence of VDD, compliance with local treatment protocol and relationship of baseline serum 25(OH)D with markers of COVID‐19 severity and fatality were analysed.

Results
55.8% of eligible patients received Colecalciferol replacement, albeit not all according to the suggested protocol. Patients admitted to ITU were younger than those managed on medical wards (61.1 years ± 11.8 vs. 76.4 years ± 14.9, respectively, p<0.001), with greater prevalence of hypertension, higher baseline respiratory rate, National Early Warning Score‐2 and C‐Reactive protein level. While mean serum 25(OH)D levels were comparable (p=0.3), only 19% of ITU patients had 25(OH)D levels greater than 50 nmol/L vs. 39.1% of non‐ITU patients (p=0.02). However, there was no association with fatality, potentially due to small sample size and prompt diagnosis and treatment of VDD.

Conclusions
Higher prevalence of VDD was observed in patients requiring ITU admission compared to patients managed on medical wards. Larger prospective studies and/or clinical trials are needed to validate and extend our observations.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi....1111/cen.14276
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Old Tue, Jul-14-20, 08:47
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Wonder why 50 nmol/L was the cutoff..... other studies use 30.

Bet no optimal level has been studied..... just lowest levels.

I talked with a man a week ago, his doc said 2000 units a day too much, better to take 1000.
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Old Tue, Jul-14-20, 17:07
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Wonder why 50 nmol/L was the cutoff..... other studies use 30.

Bet no optimal level has been studied..... just lowest levels.

I talked with a man a week ago, his doc said 2000 units a day too much, better to take 1000.

The US gov't thinks 30 nmol/L is enough. So a lot of studies cutoff at 50 nmol/l as they know 30 is too low.

But they're probably afraid of being accused of causing harm so many don't go higher anymore.
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Old Tue, Jul-14-20, 19:57
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There is one study out there now looking at covid cases above 30nm and two or three groups less than that. Those at >30 had a hugely better outcome.
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Old Wed, Jul-15-20, 17:43
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When NOT to take extra vitamin D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvA-wpmuaCI
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Old Wed, Jul-15-20, 18:28
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When NOT to take extra vitamin D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvA-wpmuaCI

Definitely good points......all disease states.

Winder what ge says about supplementing Calcium. Bet its a 'not necessary' as he us a big supporter of eating greens and real meat.

I stopped taken a calcium supplement a while ago.. Figured too much calcium was a problem no one is discussing. Causes more heart attacks in women at high doses.
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Old Wed, Jul-15-20, 20:38
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Definitely good points......all disease states.

Winder what ge says about supplementing Calcium. Bet its a 'not necessary' as he us a big supporter of eating greens and real meat.

I stopped taken a calcium supplement a while ago.. Figured too much calcium was a problem no one is discussing. Causes more heart attacks in women at high doses.


Sure don't need extra calcium clogging up the pipes
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Old Mon, Jul-20-20, 10:55
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Calcium gets deposited in the skin and bone spurs. too. Makes me wonder where else too much calcium gets stored.


Vitamin D works along with other vitamins, not alone . E, A and others.
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Old Sun, Sep-27-20, 04:29
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Taking K2 with D3 avoids calcium problems. It's the traffic officer who puts stuff where it should be.
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