Sat, Mar-31-18, 13:58
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Posts: 2,371
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 296/220/205
BF:25%?
Progress: 84%
Location: Upstate SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcc0455
I have seen enough attempts at defining a ketogenic diet to conclude there is no definitive answer. In my mind, any diet that shifts your body to using ketones as its primary fuel is ketogenic. However, ketones as a primary fuel is not the same as the presence of ketones. As an example, I did a test on myself where I increased carbs to about 80 to 100g per day, and cut fat. That resulted in eating about 1000 to 1200 calories per day for a couple weeks. Because my calorie intake was less than my calories used, my body had to make up the difference by creating ketones from stored fat. During those weeks of eating low calorie, I was surprised to see a more consistent presence of breath and urine ketones than I measured eating low carb "keto". Even so, the ketones were only supplemental to the primary fuel of glucose, so I would not consider that a ketogenic diet. Those couple weeks not only convinced me that low calorie was much harder than low carb, but also gave me a better understanding of how ketones are used.
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Good thoughts.
Ya, a distinction should be made between a diet that is high fat and low carb to the point it encourages the body to keep a detectable amount of ketones in the blood vs. a starvation diet where the body must burn fat and as a consequence has ketones in the blood. I would not call the later a "keto diet" even if the definitive measure of ketosis is satisfied.
Of course there is the confounding case where one is low carb and high calorie to the point that hunger is satisfied, calories eaten are below the metabolic rate and body fat is being burned. That is the case where all us dieters want to be.
Frankly I think this is a discussion born by the fact that there really aren't enough nouns to go around between the dieters, performance athletes, epilepsy treaters, etc. etc. and a lack of scientific information.
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