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Old Fri, Nov-04-16, 04:38
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Default Low carb causing high Uric acid levels???

Hi all,

I recently spoke to friend who was having considerable success with a low carb diet. However he has since been advised to stop by his doctors who have said his low carb diet is causing high levels of Uric acid in his body? Is this correct as I've never heard of this before?

Any help or thoughts would be much appreciated!!
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Old Fri, Nov-04-16, 06:33
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Hi! Apparently it does for me too and I've had foot pain and a kidney type stone but it wasn't located in my kidneys. It was in my saliva gland, under my ear. Weird, right?! Not sure, but I think I was getting way less water than I should have and was drinking lots of coffee and tea and some Diet Coke to compensate for the fact that I wasn't eating carbs. I was also eating giant portions of meat. In the past year, I've learned to reduce my meat intake to a moderate level and I drink a lot more water. That must have been the be cure for me because as long as I keep that up, I've had no problems.
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Old Fri, Nov-04-16, 08:28
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The belief that protein consumption leads to high uric acid levels has pretty much been debunked.

It's high levels of carbs that seem to trigger that. It could be that your diet sodas were spiking your insulin levels. Given that the exact mechanism for excess uric acid accumulation is unknown, blaming it on meat seems to me to be just a knee jerk reaction by doctors.

But, for sure, I'd certainly increase my water intake before I made any other dietary changes, and give that a couple weeks to see what happens. Brandy, looks like you found the solution for you.
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Old Fri, Nov-04-16, 10:41
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Thank you, MickiSue. Do you think Diet Soda really raises insulin? I was off of it for about 18 months, but wasn't eating below maintenance carbs at the time, so I don't know if it would have helped me to lose weight. Do you think it only raises insulin in some people? Could it be why I always stall after an initial 15 pound loss. I enjoy my diet Soda so much and drink at least 24 ounces a day. Today, one liter. I would hat to be sabotaging my efforts...but I don't want to give up my last food related vice if I can avoid that.
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Uric acid (gout) has definitely been linked to fructose consumption. I know there have been posts about gout here. One perhaps had a severe gout attack after going LC, but then it seemed to stop his on-going issues with gout after that.

Try using the google search option here.
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Old Fri, Nov-04-16, 16:36
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Uric acid (gout) has definitely been linked to fructose consumption. I know there have been posts about gout here. One perhaps had a severe gout attack after going LC, but then it seemed to stop his on-going issues with gout after that.

Try using the google search option here.

Exactly, Nancy. That's been my experience. My father developed gout late in his life, and I started to get the symptoms when I hit my late-50s. Going LCHF and grain free stopped this in its tracks. I no longer have any concerns. This statement is a result of N=1 experience, and really, what could be better than that?
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Old Fri, Nov-04-16, 19:14
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. This statement is a result of N=1 experience, and really, what could be better than that?



For you, Rob? Absolutely nothing.

I prefer to replace the bad stuff with legal, but indulgent stuff, myself. Right now I'm drinking rooibos tea that is blended with Moroccan cinnamon (really amazing aroma) and has HWC added. It tastes better than any diet pop I've ever drunk. I can drink it iced in the summer, and right now, of course, it also functions as a hand warmer.
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Old Fri, Nov-04-16, 19:50
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Dr. Davis explained this in Wheat Belly, the chapter named Bone Breaker. Eat vegetables and you will add alkaline foods to your diet to help neutralize the acid.

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"Around 10,000 years ago, the formally alkaline human diet pH balance shifted to the acid side with the introduction of grains, especially the most dominant of grains, Wheat. The modern human diet of plentiful "healthy whole grains" but lacking in vegetables and fruit is highly acid-charged, inducing a condition called acidosis. Over the years, acid takes a toll on your bones"

He says that taking extra calcium us useless and that we build bone until we are about 18, then we spend the rest of our lives tearing it down, a process regulated by body PH. The chronic mild metabolic acidosis engineered by our diet worsens as we age, starting in our teens and worsening through the eighth decade." and says, "incidentally, taking calcium supplements is no more effective at reversing bone loss than randomly tossing some bags of cement and bricks into your yard is at building a new patio."

"The acidic PH pulls calcium carbonate and calcium phosphate from bone to maintain the body PH of 7.4. The acidic environment also stimulates bone resorbing cells within bone, known as osteoclasts, to work harder and faster to dissolve bone tissue to release the precious calcium."

"The problem comes when you habitually ingest acids in the diet, then draw on calcium stores over and over and over again to neutralize those acids.
An excessively acidified diet will eventually show itself as bone fractures." because the body in an effort to keep "the body slightly alkaline will sacrifice bone health to keep the body pH stable. If not eating Wheat, "Meats such as chicken, pork and beef are a major source of acid in the average American diet.

Acids yielded by meat include uric acid and sulfuric acid (the same as your car battery and acid rain). However protein rich foods may not be as harmful to pH balance as it first appears. Recent research suggests that protein-rich meats have other effects that particularly negate the acid load. Animal protein exerts bone strengthening effect through stimulation of the hormone insulin growth factor (IGF-1) which triggers bone growth and mineralization."

"Vegetables and fruits, on the other hand, are the dominant alkaline foods in the diet. Virtually everything in your produce department will drive pH toward the alkaline direction. From kale to kohlrabi, generous consumption of vegetables and fruits serve to neutralize the acidic burden from animal products."

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