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Old Sat, Oct-30-04, 00:29
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Plan: CAD
Stats: 171/146.0/133 Female 5'4" and 1/4
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Progress: 66%
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Zule, I know you've probably told me before, but can you link me to info on the BCAAs? I'm curious to know how they work with the muscle fat/thing. Everything I've found to read online (which admittedly wasn't much) says the average person gets enough of these in their normal diet and doesn't need supplements.
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Old Sat, Oct-30-04, 12:42
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Plan: I am a leaf on the wind
Stats: 290/275/195 Male 5.11
BF:a mess of it
Progress: 16%
Location: In a box by the door
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I had a couple glasses of wine with friends last night, when I came home I had a handful of olives and a handful of pecans...that was it.
Usually it would be a whole frozen pizza!

I am still getting "slightly" nauseous in the morning. Not enough to want to stop however! My moods are of a sunnier disposition. It will be interesting to see where I end up as of April.

Quietone: I saw a change in my moods in about a 24 hour period. Quite fast really...I'm only taking 1200 I.U. a day...it seems it's all I need but YMMV!
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Old Sat, Oct-30-04, 13:01
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Plan: Schwarzbein Principle II
Stats: 191/189/150 Female 67 inches
BF:Oh, dear, yes!
Progress: 5%
Location: Denver, CO
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Hi Zule,
I'm too darned chicken to try that much D3 at once. I'll see if I can get up the nerve!
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Old Sat, Oct-30-04, 17:21
Zuleikaa Zuleikaa is offline
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Plan: Mishmash
Stats: 365/308.0/185 Female 66
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Progress: 32%
Location: Maryland, US
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Steve
Maybe you need to delay taking the dose until you have breakfast. You might need to take it with food. I noticed that today I got slightly nauseaous, but then I forgot to eat breakfast. It went away once I ate something. During the work week I have a routine.

Dee
Just a suggestion. You have a several illnesses that seem to be D deficiency related in addition to SAD.
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Old Sun, Oct-31-04, 18:26
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Plan: Mishmash
Stats: 365/308.0/185 Female 66
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Nothing to report. I hope everyone had a successful weekend.

Dee
I hope your migraines have gone away.
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Old Sun, Oct-31-04, 19:18
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Plan: Schwarzbein Principle II
Stats: 191/189/150 Female 67 inches
BF:Oh, dear, yes!
Progress: 5%
Location: Denver, CO
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Zule ~ no such luck. However, I got it down from a #8 or #10 down to a #5 or #6. At least it's more bearable.

Tomorrow, I'll try 1200 IU again and stay at that level for a few days unless I have side-effects.

I see my MD on Tues afternoon.
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Old Sun, Oct-31-04, 19:48
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Dee
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully a few days of 1200 IU will bring it down further.
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Old Mon, Nov-01-04, 00:31
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Plan: I am a leaf on the wind
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BF:a mess of it
Progress: 16%
Location: In a box by the door
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In the area of appetite suppression, this D cocktail can't be beat!

Later, unless I start bleeding from the eyes and upchucking my own liver.

Great visual eh? Happy Halloween!
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Old Mon, Nov-01-04, 16:56
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Plan: Schwarzbein Principle II
Stats: 191/189/150 Female 67 inches
BF:Oh, dear, yes!
Progress: 5%
Location: Denver, CO
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Well, the migraine story just keeps getting worse. I was up at 5 AM with an aura and full-blown migraine.

I gave myself a rest from supplements for one day to let my body clear itself of anything extra. Tomorrow, I see my MD.

I'll go to 1200 IU D3 tomorrow. I'm going to try to reach 4000 IU a day.

I'm really getting depressed.
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Old Mon, Nov-01-04, 21:14
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Dee
I'm so sorry to hear that your migraine didn't get better. It's definitely D deficiency related. I don't know if you know of this or if this will help.http://www.healthcentral.com/PrintF...lText.cfm?id=25

It takes a few months to take show results though. I think increasing the D will give you better results sooner.
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Old Tue, Nov-02-04, 00:36
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Plan: Schwarzbein Principle II
Stats: 191/189/150 Female 67 inches
BF:Oh, dear, yes!
Progress: 5%
Location: Denver, CO
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Thanks, Zule ~ Riboflavin (B2) could help, but I'm going for the D3 first. Now that the "bug" has run its course, I'll start going up in dose again. I don't want to add too many things at once -- if something works, I wouldn't know which "something" it was!

I do really truly appreciate all the info -- you never know what might actually do the trick. A lady who was in the (now defunt) migraine support group had a severe allergy attack. She was rushed to the hospital, where they gave her an I.V. injection of Benadryl. She didn't have a migraine again, at least for the 5 years following. A friend's friend, who had chronic daily migraines, lost her blood pressure meds while on vacation. Her doctor called in a prescription for "the wrong drug," a calcium-channel blocker, and it actually worked -- she's had only a few migraines since, and it's been almost 15 years!

So, ya never know! I haven't had a migraine "series" like this in about 8 years, so I'm seeing my doc to see if she has any brilliant ideas.

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Old Tue, Nov-02-04, 19:29
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Plan: Schwarzbein Principle II
Stats: 191/189/150 Female 67 inches
BF:Oh, dear, yes!
Progress: 5%
Location: Denver, CO
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Good news!

1. I had 2 whopping big injections, one in each cheek (not on my face), of anti-inflammatories, and the migraine is breaking up. Let's hope this breaks this cycle.

What's puzzling: my butt really hurts! If these are anti-inflammatories, why do they hurt?

2. Doc doesn't agree with some of the science in Schwarzbein (neither do I), but she thinks the plan itself is sound if one goes by symptoms and not lab tests. So, she's behind me on the diet plan.

3. She hadn't heard of the high-dose vitamin D experiments, but she's interested. I asked her if I needed bloodwork first. She thought about it, asked the questions that we've all been asking, made sure I was taking D3 (not D2, and definitely not with vitamin A), and said, "That one's not toxic. I don't see any reason why you shouldn't give it a try. Let me know if you get good results!"

So, here I go again! Aiming for an eventual dose of 4,000 IU a day. Today, I'm at 1,200 IU.
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Old Wed, Nov-03-04, 06:41
Zuleikaa Zuleikaa is offline
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Plan: Mishmash
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Dee
That's great news!!! Hears hoping you can now get on track with the D and have good results.
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Old Wed, Nov-03-04, 16:33
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 178/161.5/145 Female 5'3"
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Mind if I cut in?

I read through this thread (quickly - it is time to go home!) and the affects on SAD caught my eye. I strongly suspect my fiancee suffers from SAD. He may be willing to try vitamin D but as I understand he should be taking other supplements as well. Currently he takes a multi -vit and calcium. He should include BCAA's which are.....? (yes I saw the links but could someone summarize please? )
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