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Old Thu, Sep-30-04, 11:14
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Plan: Atkins /NHE/CKD
Stats: 289/219/200 Male 5' 8"
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http://www.extique.com/index.htm
Rob Faigin web site too.
I ordered the books from the links on his site
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: // Male 69 inches
BF:27%/21%/15%
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Thanks for all the info.
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Plan: low glycemic
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BTW, glycogen depletion (i.e. permanent lo-carb) also reduces my performance. My lifts are 10 to 15% lower on perm LC as opposed to TKD or other cycling.

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I don' think anyone's answered this yet. Is anyone one willing to put up with lackluster workouts for 12-20 weeks to see if this works? Has anyone gone 12-20 weeks on 25% carbs or less to see what happens?

The test was on mice, but mice don't get invited to weddings or birthday parties, if you 'carb up' do you have to start again at square one or will a CKD/TKD for 12-20 weeks allow your body to make significant amounts of fat burning enzymes?

And why will you get bigger muscles if you're fat burning as opposed to carb burning? I sure would like to see more studies on this. And is there anything we can do to encourage our bodies to become fat burners, like take l-carnitine?

This is so intriguing. I will definitely try to keep my carbs at 25% or less, which isn't a stretch for me.

I'm one who went paleo earlier in the year. After 5 weeks my muscles were flat, as expected bcs of the glycogen depletion. I didn't like it. Now I'm back to +/- 150 gms carbs a day and am very happy with the results.

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Plan: My Own LC plan
Stats: 230/153/155 Male 68
BF:32%/11-12%/9-10%
Progress: 103%
Location: Salisbury, MD
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I don' think anyone's answered this yet. Is anyone one willing to put up with lackluster workouts for 12-20 weeks to see if this works? Has anyone gone 12-20 weeks on 25% carbs or less to see what happens?

-Nancy




I did workouts at about 50g carbs per day for about 8 months. It sucked! I felt very weak and tired whever I worked out. I made absolutly no gains in muscle size and lost strength all over. I would certainly not recomend it to anyone. Now that I have started doing carb ups I've gained about 10lbs of muscle, fat free.

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