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Old Thu, May-18-06, 17:41
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Default Does lard really contain lots of vit D?

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so I read on the beloved WestonaPrice site that lard contains a HUGE amount of vitamin D. I'm wondering if this is true? Mainly because I eat cod liver oil but also a lot of my own rendered lard (which is soooo good). I was quite shocked when I read that. Also as none of the nutrition tables have any mention of vitamin D.

Ideas??
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Old Thu, May-18-06, 22:03
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I was not aware that lard had any significant amount of any vitamin.
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 07:34
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Well that's what I thought until I read this:

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnu...indmiracle.html

It says there's 2,800 IUs vitamin D in 100g of lard. That's a lot.

I notice if I eat a lot of rendered lard I get very energized - I thought this was just due to eating lots of animal fat, but now I'm wondering if it is due to the vitamin D content.
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 07:36
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Fat has abundant vitamin F.
(vitamin fricken good)

That is really cool if it's true! All the more reason to love our lard...well not OUR lard, the lard in our fridge.
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 07:37
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It's mine. It's ALL mine. Don't you take my lard away from me you.
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 07:51
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Well that's what I thought until I read this:

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnu...indmiracle.html

It says there's 2,800 IUs vitamin D in 100g of lard. That's a lot.

I notice if I eat a lot of rendered lard I get very energized - I thought this was just due to eating lots of animal fat, but now I'm wondering if it is due to the vitamin D content.
Interesting that, when I check the USDA database, it shows the amounts listed here for Cod Leiver Oil and Atlantic Herring (pickled), but the Lard entry does not list a vitamin D amount.
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USDA databases compiled in the 1980s list the following foods as rich in vitamin D. The amounts given are for 100 grams or about 3 1/2 ounces. These figures demonstrate the difficulty in obtaining 4,000 IU vitamin D per day from ordinary foods in the American diet. Three servings of herring, oysters, catfish, mackerel or sardines plus generous amounts of butter, egg yolk, lard or bacon fat and 2 teaspoons cod liver oil (500 iu per teaspoon) yield about 4,000 IU vitamin D—a very rich diet indeed!

Cod Liver Oil 10,000
Lard (Pork Fat) 2,800
Atlantic Herring (Pickled) 680
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 08:10
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That is about 1/2 a cup of lard... probably hard to get in that much lard a day.
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 09:20
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not for me!! Ahhh it would be nice to be able to eat as much fat as I would like to. (without getting fatter)
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 12:33
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I just checked the USDA database and I didn't see any vitamin D listed for lard. The entries for cod liver oil and herring are correct though. There is no vitamin D in suet either.

Could be the data entry was wrong and has since been corrected.
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 13:29
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Notice that the USDA database doesn't list vitamin D under lard. It's doesn't say zero, the value is omitted. Other vitamins are listed as zero.
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 13:42
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not for me!! Ahhh it would be nice to be able to eat as much fat as I would like to. (without getting fatter)

lol you should check bears topic
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 17:24
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Yeah - usda has a lot of weird *missing* numbers for things like vitamin D in lard.

Logically - if we store fat soluble vitamins in our fat - then won't other animals do the same? In other words - are the entries for say vitamin E wrong? Because the USDA always lists like crap-all vitamin E for most animal products - yet this is a fat-soluble vitamin. I know you find it in greens etc - but then where does it GO??
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 19:09
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I'd ask the USDA, but I never get any feedback from them when I ask them about their database. Maybe I should say that I am a money toting rep from a drug company?
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Old Fri, May-19-06, 21:58
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Logically - if we store fat soluble vitamins in our fat - then won't other animals do the same? In other words - are the entries for say vitamin E wrong? Because the USDA always lists like crap-all vitamin E for most animal products - yet this is a fat-soluble vitamin. I know you find it in greens etc - but then where does it GO??


This is the crux of it I think.

We store fat soluble vitamins (like D) when we get adequate sun exposure or get a dietary or supplementary source. Pigs it seems also need the sun (and sadly in your local piggery, the pigs might never see the sun at all )

Other animals such as fish can produce Vit D from their diet ... if it is a natural one including algae, lichen or grass (hence farmed salmon are a poor source)

http://www.consumerhealth.org/artic...=20010214043340
http://www.westonaprice.org/caustic...y/cc2000su.html
http://www.krispin.com/omega3.html

So go get some free range, grass fed lard!
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Old Sat, May-20-06, 10:13
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I think I'm in luck - here in Chile there is ample space for animals and from what I've seen they're all kept outside. So on with the lard.

Any more ideas about vitamin E?
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