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Wed, Aug-20-08, 13:38

Hairballz

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Originally Posted by lowcarbUgh

I think there is too much emotional and sensual pleasure in food for most people to look at it as simply fuel.

Granted, but the point she was making is to quit assigning judgments like "good" or "evil" to food.

I was out to eat with a friend the other night and after a WONDERFUL steak we split a piece of chocolate cake that was just DIVINE. Carbs? Yes. Evil? No. I refuse to beat myself up about the food choice OR the carbs. It wasn't the healthiest fuel I could have chosen, but as you say there are more emotional components associated with food, and enjoying half a piece of cake with a good friend was the right decision for me at that moment in time - I'm not going to attach good/evil labels to it. That was the point the dietician was making (among others), is to remove the demonization of food from our vocabulary and thinking.

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#47 ^

Wed, Aug-20-08, 14:47

Nancy LC

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Devil's food cake is evil. Says so right in the name.

#48 ^

Wed, Aug-20-08, 15:19

Wifezilla

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Excellent point Nancy

#49 ^

Wed, Aug-20-08, 15:25

ysabella

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So angel food cake is okay, then!

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Wed, Aug-20-08, 15:35

lowcarbUgh lowcarbUgh is offline

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I don't think most of you are worthy of truly evil grain products

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Thu, Aug-21-08, 09:51

RCo

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Originally Posted by Nancy LC

Devil's food cake is evil. Says so right in the name.

#52 ^

Sat, Oct-04-08, 17:53

rightnow

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I am reminded of something else I know about: freshwater plants. The idea behind raising them is you give them an environment identical to the one it evolved in, particularly if they dominated their biotope, and they will achieve ideal growth and development. Just one flaw in that reasoning: it's not true in practice. Give Amazon basin plants an environment like the one they evolved in and they will do okay. Give them an environment containing many more nutrients than the one they evolved in and they are much healthier, grow much more quickly and in general thrive in comparison with those in their natural environment. It is likely that these plants dominated in that environment because they managed to survive in less than ideal conditions -- they eeked by as other plants died out. Who's to say that the same is not true of H. sapiens? Put differently, who's to say that the diet eaten throughout the evolution of H. sapiens is the diet they evolved to eat rather than the diet they survived on while evolving?

I know I'm late but the bookmark to this board fell off my list so I'm catching up. The above paragraph is really an awesome point. That what is 'ideal' vs. what 'man ate while evolving' (...where? when? seems like that's a WHOLE lot of territory anyway) -- aren't necessarily the same thing. It's possible that we'd all be a little healthier if the oxygen% in our air was slightly higher, for example, and that might have nothing to do with what we "evolved with". Thanks for writing that out. I hadn't thought about that but it's an excellent point.