Fri, Jul-01-16, 06:41
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Senior Member
Posts: 15,075
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Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154
BF:
Progress: 104%
Location: Ontario
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Gay pride was mentioned... Norm MacDonald has a bit he does on gay pride. Basically, he says that it's sad that people feel the need to be proud of being gay. The whole bit comes down to the observation that the reason Norm thinks this shouldn't be a point of pride is that it should be more of a matter of fact. The reason it is a reasonable point of pride is the fact that a history of adversity and prejudice made being openly gay, and standing up for other people who were gay, a brave and moral act.
When it comes to the "fat is beautiful" or fat can be beautiful ideas... these are just empirically demonstrable facts. Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. And that might be some of the problem. People losing weight to get beautiful--the idea that they weren't beautiful in the first place was subjective. Losing weight with a subjectively-judged goal in mind can mean never actually getting around to being happy with the results. Targets for blood glucose, blood pressure, mobility--these are a bit more objective.
If you look at the cliche "she'd be pretty, if she just lost a little weight." Really? Or would people just be willing to admit that she was pretty, then? I have a friend who married one of my other friends, when I was in my twenties, I probably would have put her in that "pretty if she just lost a little weight" category. Until she went and got a professional photo shoot. After I saw those pictures, I went "Oh. She's beautiful." I felt kind of stupid for not noticing it before.
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