Oh, no, it's not my first time, by a long shot. I lost about 60 pounds in six months, back in '99 with PP. I now wish I had more pictures of me at that time. I highly favor Eades's plan, over other authors, as far as my own choices go. I didn't stay on plan much after the holidays that year, and of course gained it all back, plus some, like so many others. I used the old usenet system and read/posted in alt.support.diet-lowcarb, Or ASDLC. It was a marvelous board and made it possible for me to be successful. I used to have my sig designed to try to find some of the old members but didn't have much luck.