Thanks Spang, I agree and am trying to hold the carbs way down...although I am having no "white" foods (flour, rice, pasta) and absolutely no sugar; I do have some dried beans occasionally but try not to overload on those...I think they're a really good source of protein and a nice change from all that meat...I'm not really comfortable giving up fruits and veggies (no corn or potatoes) but try not to eat them when I eat fats/proteins. I think you're right about giving this some time...I'm going to try to keep that sugar out of the rest of my life...hopefully the benefit will be some loss of weight...I have a long way to go and am going thru menopause which doesn't help either.