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Originally Posted by dina1957
If you can provide any data to support this claim, please, do so:
1)# of control samples taking GS and total number of your diabetic clients
2) dosage of GS taken daily
3) length of experiment until FBG <100 is achieved
4) % of success
5) other supplements, medications taken
I just wonder, if you are an MD, ND, RN, NP or in medical profession field at all? You reffer to your "clients" being cured by GS, so those are your patients? I also see you advising on supplements with a high regree of assurance, like someone with a medical background would. Diabetics thought to be low on most vit/minerals for 2 reasons:
1) impared digestion, prevention full absorbtion of nutrients
2) urinating more often (when glucose is high) and basically peeing out water soluble Vit/minerals.
But with impared digestion, wouldn't it be hard to digest supplements as well, unless they are in injectable form and bypass digestion?
is it because of GS regimen alone or taking a dozen of other vitamins, minerals and such in addition to GS?
Pardon my sceptisim, but since being Dx I've tried almost any herbal remedy that claimed to help controlling BG and cure diabetes, and yet I am still in the same place where I started in 2002. I also take all recommended vitamins and minerals without seeing any difference in my numbers. This is why I am a bit sceptical about GS and other herbs claims. The only evidence we have is ability of GS to control sweet tooth, as a sugar destroyer. So it does help ppl that have troubles controling their sugar cravings and sweet tooth to lower BGs and may be even lose weight simply because they stop craving and eating sweets...
But in order to utilize this mechanism, one has to chew the raw GS leaves, which contain gymnemic acid and sort of "numb" sweet receptors on the tongue. Does taking pils containing tiny amount of dried herb works the same way? Just a thought. May be it does not work for me since I don't have sweet tooth and don't eat sweets, who knows.
I also interested what is the mechanism of regeneration pancreatic B-cells, AFAIK once they are gone, it's forever. I was trying to find an unbiased information (free from sales ppl claims) regarding GS on the web with no success.
I would appreciate if you can provide a link to some unbiased information on GS.
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No, I am not in the medical profession though I do want to work on getting my masters in naturopathy.
I have 12 diabetic clients taking gymnema sylvestre, 1600 mg a day, and other supplements including vitamin D. I believe in supplements, that you can't take one supplement in isolation, that supplements have syngergy, and that medical problems often are signs of malnourishment and nutrient deficiencies. Plus I believe that vitamin D has a significant role in insulin regulation.
These clients have all greatly lowered their BS, at least four of them down into the normal range. Some have been taking it for almost a year but the benefits were achieved before that.
Oh the regeneration of beta cells, that's if there are some remaining.
Gymnema Sylvestre_Diabetes Research
Effect of Extended Release Gymnema Sylvestre Leaf Extract (Beta Fast GXR) Alone or In Combination With Oral Hypoglycemics or Insulin Regimens for Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes
Authors: Joffe, DJ, editor~diabetesincontrol.com; Freed, SH, steverx~comcast.net.
Source: Diabetes In Control Newsletter, Issue 76 (1) : 30 Oct 2001
?003 Wen-Cin Marketing, Inc. All rights reserved.
http://www.cljhealth.com/science1_us.htm
from Pub Med:
Gymnema Sylvestre_Diabetes
Antidiabetic effect of a leaf extract from Gymnema sylvestre in non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus patients.
Baskaran K, Kizar Ahamath B, Radha Shanmugasundaram K, Shanmugasundaram ER.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum
Medical benefits of using natural compounds and their derivatives having multiple pharmacological actions.
Kimura I.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum
Use of Gymnema sylvestre leaf extract in the control of blood glucose in insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus.
Shanmugasundaram ER, Rajeswari G, Baskaran K, Rajesh Kumar BR, Radha Shanmugasundaram K, Kizar Ahmath B.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum
Possible regeneration of the islets of Langerhans in streptozotocin-diabetic rats given Gymnema sylvestre leaf extracts.
Shanmugasundaram ER, Gopinath KL, Radha Shanmugasundaram K, Rajendran VM.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum
Gymnema sylvestre stimulates insulin release in vitro by increased membrane permeability.
Persaud SJ, Al-Majed H, Raman A, Jones PM.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum
Effect of Gymnema sylvestre, R.Br. on glucose homeostasis in rats.
Okabayashi Y, Tani S, Fujisawa T, Koide M, Hasegawa H, Nakamura T, Fujii M, Otsuki M.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum
Antihyperglycemic effects of gymnemic acid IV, a compound derived from Gymnema sylvestre leaves in streptozotocin-diabetic mice.
Sugihara Y, Nojima H, Matsuda H, Murakami T, Yoshikawa M, Kimura I.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum
Effect of Extended Release Gymnema Sylvestre Leaf Extract (Beta Fast GXR) Alone or In Combination With Oral Hypoglycemics or Insulin Regimens for Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes
Authors: Joffe, DJ, editor~diabetesincontrol.com; Freed, SH, steverx~comcast.net.
Source: Diabetes In Control Newsletter, Issue 76 (1) : 30 Oct 2001
?003 Wen-Cin Marketing, Inc. All rights reserved.
http://www.cljhealth.com/science1_us.htm