thank you, i do have both those books, i will do some reading. i did stick to cad yesterday not really balancing the rm though. and today was hungry and had rm for breakfast, so i hope i last the rest of the day without carbs. still frustrated at myself for fighting this for 10 yrs, never really had a problem before that, that is why i questioned if i needed cad or not.

when i was thin i ate alot of carbs very little veggies and no fruits. and i drank, i was just more active then but still hardly any protien at all.

i mean even when i was a kid i used to trade my brothers their frenchfries for my cheesburgers, just wasnt real excited about meat. i still dont know where i am headed but i have to keep trying.