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Old Mon, Apr-10-23, 09:16
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Originally Posted by WereBear
This post lingered for me because I keep seeing people so incredibly confused about food. Because only 20% of the supermarket is actual food.

Who would even use such "helps" even though they are not at all helpful? Because most people, (and their doctors!) have ZERO (with a capital "Z") understanding how how food works once it passes the taste buds. This makes them used to being told what to eat instead of making their own informed decisions. Ah, that "informed part" carries a lot of confusion too, because every place they turn contradicts the last one. I've come to loathe the whole ranking concept, where only one can be the best.

When, on a place like Diet Doctor, they make the effort. BUT -- and I don't know how we get past this -- that only works with people who are comfortable not conforming with everyone else. And that is several bridges too far for many people. Who, to be fair, are overworked and under-thinking because they are already suffering from stress.

It's part of our general attitude, at least in the US, that a "calorie is a calorie." Which is ridiculously untrue, but people never think about it and so, it never leaves their brains. This is exactly the attitude which trapped me in ill health and overweight for so long.

Our body never expected our brain to continually override its best instincts. Unless we want to spend centuries adapting to this Frankenfood, while they make profitable food ever more capable of working its sick-making magic.

What is truly bizarre is that people are hooked on the sugar and taste overloads, and that is why they leap upon the calorie concept. And keep on eating their junk, only in smaller portions. I know my eating disorder started that way. Did not work for me...

If they only knew the best plate of food I ever tasted was my favorite hamburger, cooked with salt. It was when my digestive energy was up to OMAD, and I had a pound of hamburger a day I will try it again, when I can do that and live off the energy all day. I want to get there again!

Good observations. Attempting to evaluate things to find "the best" often clouds the issues. Yes, many have appetites and eating behaviors distorted by food and chemical combinations engineered to produce the effect of wanting to eat more resulting in overeating. It's very hard to break away from that and train ourselves to eat the way our ancestors ate and how the human species should eat to achieve optimum health. Even for those ways of eating that I believe are healthier, we get distortions and belief systems that don't work for everyone, but are proposed by those who believe their way is better.

While the linked debate is between two people who I believe are really in touch with healthy ways of eating, sometimes it can go beyond common sense, particularly when attempting to apply ratings or scoring. Better than what? Better for whom? I applaud the attempts to do this, as I believe those involved are truly trying to make things easier for everyone to understand and follow simpler guidelines for healthy eating, but sometimes it just doesn't work. As long as people can see these limitations and acknowledge them, then we continue to have an open dialog. Naiman, when confronted by Norwitz with some probing, difficult questions, did a good job of this. That's why I believe this debate is so valuable to hear.
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