Good day, I've followed this "discussion" off and on, and I have to side with Tamarian. However there is no winner here, since gymeejet really doesn't want to debate from an objective position, just like Tamarian says.

When it comes down to it, humans seem to do pretty well with about any diet, just as do most other omnivores. And what I mean by that is two examples: Clarence Bass, bodybuilder, low-fat, high carb, looks damn good at 60+. Dr. Ellis, also bodybuilder, but high-fat, low carb, looks damn good at 55+.

Does this prove one diet better than the other?? Not necessarily, but research Dr. Lutz from Austria, who has four decades of clinical use of low-carb diets for improving health, with weight control being secondary, and that will help lean you towards low-carb. In his case, we're talking thousands of patients, not hundreds... Real life stuff, not studies...