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Old Fri, Mar-23-18, 07:09
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Plan: mostly milkfat
Stats: 190/152.4/154 Male 67inches
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Progress: 104%
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Originally Posted by wyatt
From my experience it is possibly the overindulgence in red meat, saturated fat, wine, etc. and possibly some underindulgence in certain areas specific to the person that are the problem.


Sort of a different way to approach this--I don't think meat, saturated fat and such are necessarily causative, although I do think it likely that they're conditionally causative. An obvious example--if somebody indulges their love of meat with a trip to McDonald's, gets a Big Mac, fries, apple pie and a shake. I'm more likely to overeat fried rice with fat and beef in it than boiled white rice. You can have a healthy diet with lots of beef in it, that doesn't presuppose that there aren't baseline diets that can be made worse by the addition of meat--but even there, something has to go, but it doesn't have to be the beef.
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