Well there ya have it! I read most of the thread....I think people decide to do what they decide to do..it's efficacy is determined long term.....Ive been here on and off for a very long time....I think the best advice I get is from long term maintainers....soooo many people disappear over time .. some reappear years later with a story to tell...and most..all or all-plus weight regained.... in reading their stories I have learned much......perhaps as much as Ive learned from long term maintainers..I appreciate and respect their stories....I think some of the advice given here comes from that observation and experience.