Originally Posted by Ms Arielle

When low carbers are not loosing and making progress, then counting calories is helpful.

DANDR is based on simple premise of serving of meat and a cup of leafy veg or other allowed lc veg. This works for most according to DANDR. Some need fat fast, some need IF, some need calorie counting, some need more fat.......

DANDR mentions liberal use of fats, and with decrease of appetite an overall decrease in food consumption. Which is a decrease in calorie intake. Just not literally counted. Some folks do like to track the calories.

We do what works for each of us.