Martin: I dont know where you got your view on the bodybuilding community but its completly wrong. The majority of bodybuilders very carefully watch macronutrient breakdowns and calories, they dont just get fat.

"This forum is dedicated to low carb diets and as such we're a little more informed on the subject" - You couldnt be more narrow minded and wrong you are on the subject.

You seem very stuck in your theories, so ill just say that bodybuilders are the experts in adding lean muscle, and trimming off fat that comes with it. The majority use low carb diets to cut down their bodyfat, then reintroduce as many carbs as they need to when building more muscle.

Feel free to try adding muscle while in ketosis and not in a calorie surplus - you will be wasting your time.