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Flintstone Mon, Jul-24-06 18:05

Thanks..that make him feel more comfortable with this!! I know every body reacts differently. Perhaps we'll begin on a weekend and see how it goes.

Now......I'm going to ask you for a HUGE favor!

My friend with the hemochromotosis is very interested in trying this! However...her "medically trained" mind would like to read up a little on these suppplements. I have already forwarded your links on D, Cal & Mag from the "Experiment" thread. Could you provide me with any links on the others:
oregano oil
omega oils
milk thistle
dandelion
alpha liporic acid

I know this is a lot to ask of you...but I seem to only be pulling up "sales" of these products when I do searches. If this is too much to ask....perhaps you can point me in the right direction to find it myself.

I am eternally in your debt for all the help you've been!!

Deb

Zuleikaa Tue, Jul-25-06 07:11

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flintstone
Thanks..that make him feel more comfortable with this!! I know every body reacts differently. Perhaps we'll begin on a weekend and see how it goes.

Now......I'm going to ask you for a HUGE favor!

My friend with the hemochromotosis is very interested in trying this! However...her "medically trained" mind would like to read up a little on these suppplements. I have already forwarded your links on D, Cal & Mag from the "Experiment" thread. Could you provide me with any links on the others:
oregano oil
omega oils
milk thistle
dandelion
alpha liporic acid

I know this is a lot to ask of you...but I seem to only be pulling up "sales" of these products when I do searches. If this is too much to ask....perhaps you can point me in the right direction to find it myself.

I am eternally in your debt for all the help you've been!!

Deb
I won't look up omega oils. You can do a search on their components borage oil, flaxseed oil, and fish oil. I'm more favorable to fish and borage oils than flaxseed oil.

I'm also an avid proponent of megadoses of vitamin C for all illnesses. Your friend will have evaluate the benefits of this on her own. Some practitioners recommend it for bringing the body back into balance, some say it helps the body absorb iron better and should be avoided. I'm in the first group.

Here's information on whats left:
Alpha Lipoic Acid
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/la/

[Berlition R 300 oral -- alpha-lipoic acid preparation for the correction of body changes associated with high serum iron content]
[Article in Russian]
Kundiev IuI, Lubianova IP, Mikhailik OM, Dudchenko NO, Lampeka EG.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Lipoic acid pretreatment attenuates ferric chloride-induced seizures in the rat.
Meyerhoff JL, Lee JK, Rittase BW, Tsang AY, Yourick DL.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Lipoic acid as a potential therapy for chronic diseases associated with oxidative stress.
Smith AR, Shenvi SV, Widlansky M, Suh JH, Hagen TM.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Protection against amyloid beta peptide and iron/hydrogen peroxide toxicity by alpha lipoic acid.
Lovell MA, Xie C, Xiong S, Markesbery WR.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Alpha lipoic acid changes iron uptake and storage in lens epithelial cells.
Goralska M, Dackor R, Holley B, McGahan MC. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Alpha-lipoic acid and alpha-lipoamide prevent oxidant-induced lysosomal rupture and apoptosis.
Persson HL, Svensson AI, Brunk UT.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum


Dandelion
http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/d/dandel08.html

Alternation of hepatic antioxidant enzyme activities and lipid profile in streptozotocin-induced diabetic rats by supplementation of dandelion water extract.
Cho SY, Park JY, Park EM, Choi MS, Lee MK, Jeon SM, Jang MK, Kim MJ, Park YB.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Milk Thistle
http://health.enotes.com/alternativ...ia/milk-thistle

Milk thistle.
Rainone F.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Effect of herbal teas on hepatic drug metabolizing enzymes in rats.
Maliakal PP, Wanwimolruk S.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Silymarin as a new hepatoprotective agent in experimental cholestasis: new possibilities for an ancient medication.
Crocenzi FA, Roma MG.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Oregano Oil
http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=10757

Effect of dietary oregano oil and alpha-tocopheryl acetate supplementation on iron-induced lipid oxidation of turkey breast, thigh, liver and heart tissues.
Papageorgiou G, Botsoglou N, Govaris A, Giannenas I, Iliadis S, Botsoglou E.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...l=pubmed_docsum

Antibacterial activities of naturally occurring compounds against antibiotic-resistant Bacillus cereus vegetative cells and spores, Escherichia coli, and Staphylococcus aureus.
Friedman M, Buick R, Elliott CT.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...om_uid=15330549

Flintstone Tue, Jul-25-06 16:39

Oh my goodness!!! So much so fast.....I don't know how you do it!!
Thank you ever soooooo much!!

Deb

eddiemcm Sun, Aug-20-06 10:32

supplements for diabetes
 
Gymnema,fenugreek,bitter melon,banaba
leaf,cinnamon: Been there,done that.
These supplements did not help my
glucose at all.Tried for several months.
Chromium pinolinate and alpha lipoic acid
have helped a bit.I will try vitamin D.

Zuleikaa Sun, Aug-20-06 14:28

Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiemcm
Gymnema,fenugreek,bitter melon,banaba
leaf,cinnamon: Been there,done that.
These supplements did not help my
glucose at all.Tried for several months.
Chromium pinolinate and alpha lipoic acid
have helped a bit.I will try vitamin D.
I've found it has to be GTF chromium, not chromium picolinate. And the vitamin D is essential.

eddiemcm Wed, Aug-30-06 18:16

Question about Vitamin D
 
"I've found it has to be GTF chromium, not chromium picolinate. And the vitamin D is essential."
Thanks for the information,Zuleikaa.
I've switched over to GTF Chromium.
Since Vitamin D is fat soluble,should it be taken
with food?

Zuleikaa Thu, Aug-31-06 05:38

Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiemcm
"I've found it has to be GTF chromium, not chromium picolinate. And the vitamin D is essential."
Thanks for the information,Zuleikaa.
I've switched over to GTF Chromium.
Since Vitamin D is fat soluble,should it be taken
with food?
Yes. D should be taken with food, preferable something with a bit of fat.

Zuleikaa Wed, Dec-06-06 08:42

Bumping for someone.


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